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Nov 13 2021 11:56pm
Quote (GirthOfANation @ Nov 14 2021 03:54am)
Durability loss was the tell.

It's not supposed to happen, but depending how buggy the whole thing is, the code that checks for durability loss could be skipped somehow.
That's unlikely, but a possibility.
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I dont think you guys realize that when you dual wield, there is this thing called 2 weapons, and both weapons are used in attacking.

So if you have 2x greif, of course you will do more damage than greif + beast. Because beast isnt really used for the main damage, the fanat damage, ias, and AR are what they are generally used for. Not to mention being able to zerk faster with less IAS gear equipped.

2x grief just hits harder, because, well grief hits harder than beast.

If you only have a greif, obviously you only hit with grief, so the damage might seem more significant.

Please stop testing this.
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Quote (Vileinfected @ Nov 20 2021 07:25pm)
I dont think you guys realize that when you dual wield, there is this thing called 2 weapons, and both weapons are used in attacking.

So if you have 2x greif, of course you will do more damage than greif + beast. Because beast isnt really used for the main damage, the fanat damage, ias, and AR are what they are generally used for. Not to mention being able to zerk faster with less IAS gear equipped.

2x grief just hits harder, because, well grief hits harder than beast.

If you only have a greif, obviously you only hit with grief, so the damage might seem more significant.

Please stop testing this.


You have absolutely no clue, just shhhh
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Nov 20 2021 06:33pm
Quote (MazzX @ Nov 20 2021 06:32pm)
You have absolutely no clue, just shhhh


OK, tinfoil hats for all of you that believe this.
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Quote (Vileinfected @ 20 Nov 2021 19:33)
OK, tinfoil hats for all of you that believe this.


You clearly aren't even aware of something as simple as the ias bps for ww when dual wielding. Don't embarrass yourself any further.
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Nov 20 2021 06:46pm
Quote (trix123 @ Nov 20 2021 06:44pm)
You clearly aren't even aware of something as simple as the ias bps for ww when dual wielding. Don't embarrass yourself any further.


with Grief PB?

Come at me.
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Nov 20 2021 06:49pm
Quote (Vileinfected @ 20 Nov 2021 19:46)
with Grief PB?

Come at me.


Idc what base you use lol. You can only get a max of 4 fpa ww one handed, compared to 2fpa dual wielding.
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Quote (trix123 @ Nov 20 2021 06:49pm)
Idc what base you use lol. You can only get a max of 4 fpa ww one handed, compared to 2fpa dual wielding.


OK so what is your point?
Grief + Grief > Grief + Beast?
Didn't I just say that?

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2x grief just hits harder, because, well grief hits harder than beast.



OH I C you picked and chose one part of my post.
Where I said 1 grief might feel more significant than grief and beast?

Well Grief hits harder than beast, if it's the only thing dealing damage, It probably works better than mediocre damage from beast.

Maybe you were trying to refer to fhr recovery in pvp? So 2 weapons could feel better, because more fhr/block/hitchecks are being applied?

I don't know what you are arguing honestly.

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Quote (ZzEzZ @ Nov 10 2021 08:55pm)
That's true, chaos claw in general isnt better than chaos + fools/etc.


2x runic chaos is usually the most practical build since it takes an exceptionally good fools rare before it starts outperforming 2x chaos. Any mediocre or 'just good' rare is probably worse, since they usually hit like a wet noodle. The magic damage on chaos is absolutely huge, especially against 50% dr opponents
unlike a barb, you're actually forfeiting something if you use a broken offhand, since you won't get the +skills staffmods you could have on a chaos
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Nov 20 2021 08:03pm
Quote (Vileinfected @ Nov 20 2021 07:25pm)
I dont think you guys realize that when you dual wield, there is this thing called 2 weapons, and both weapons are used in attacking.

So if you have 2x greif, of course you will do more damage than greif + beast. Because beast isnt really used for the main damage, the fanat damage, ias, and AR are what they are generally used for. Not to mention being able to zerk faster with less IAS gear equipped.

2x grief just hits harder, because, well grief hits harder than beast.

If you only have a greif, obviously you only hit with grief, so the damage might seem more significant.

Please stop testing this.


Are you referring to the broken weapon exploit or just beast? I don't know if I agree with you or not.

The exploit most certainly is real.

Grief obviously does more damage than grief (depending on your target and if you have the AR to hit them). PvP could be a different story.

Dual grief is clearly better than grief/beast for WW.
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