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Jan 26 2022 09:07pm
Quote (Bugeater @ Jan 26 2022 06:43pm)
you want oak to be non-attackable... lol?

the rest of this sounds cool, but lets not massively buff already top tier builds


i said or add cooldown

your seeing it at face value yes druid has most life but we also have lowest defense thus giving defense bonus to spirit of barbs
oak dies to everything so to balance it make it unattackable but give it like a 20 second timer so its up to us to keep it running by recasting which makes us vulnerable to taking damage so its fair

im saying make all spirit unattackable so they dont die immedietly that they spawn its both a pvp and pve issue

This post was edited by Lycans on Jan 26 2022 09:08pm
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Jan 26 2022 09:21pm
saw a vid earlier with the attack speed
hope it gets corrected prior to launch imo
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Jan 26 2022 09:54pm
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It’s like everyone ignored the last couple lines of this post. :P

It’s not staying this way. As noted in the post that they are looking at ways to make shapeshifters better

Above is from the reddit post

Thankful for even this, but I still think he is missing the point, did they not have time to launch these "improvements" to wereform along with the other changes?
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Jan 26 2022 10:37pm
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PezRadar
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It’s like everyone ignored the last couple lines of this post. :P

It’s not staying this way. As noted in the post that they are looking at ways to make shapeshifters better

Above is from the reddit post

Thankful for even this, but I still think he is missing the point, did they not have time to launch these "improvements" to wereform along with the other changes?


bro this change is so bad a uber fury druid couldnt even kill uber duriel to get a organ not even getting to uber trist yet
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Jan 26 2022 10:40pm
Quote (Lycans @ Jan 26 2022 10:37pm)
bro this change is so bad a uber fury druid couldnt even kill uber duriel to get a organ not even getting to uber trist yet


Which is why the vitriolic reaction is completely warranted - I'm hoping blizzard nips this in the bud by posting some of their thoughts on how they plan to make the wereform druid BETTER like the community manager is saying they will

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Jan 26 2022 10:41pm
Quote (Brandoloni @ Jan 26 2022 09:54pm)
PezRadar
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It’s like everyone ignored the last couple lines of this post. :P

It’s not staying this way. As noted in the post that they are looking at ways to make shapeshifters better

Above is from the reddit post

Thankful for even this, but I still think he is missing the point, did they not have time to launch these "improvements" to wereform along with the other changes?



I mean unless they remove the cap and we can reach 3 FPA or at least 4 like today, the class is dead. Equipment IAS counting is good if it allows us to reach new breakpoints, not if it makes all weapons unusable because they are all equally fucking slow

Let me be clear we need BUFFS, IAS like it was working at launch was good, we need to keep that AND also get passive FRW.

This post was edited by oscarmk on Jan 26 2022 10:42pm
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I mean unless they remove the cap and we can reach 3 FPA or at least 4 like today, the class is dead. Equipment IAS counting is good if it allows us to reach new breakpoints, not if it makes all weapons unusable because they are all equally fucking slow


Right, so we are back to the waiting game :bonk:
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Jan 26 2022 10:56pm
D2: Resurrected PTR= People Tired of Resting.

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Jan 26 2022 11:19pm
Quote (Lycans @ 26 Jan 2022 21:07)
i said or add cooldown

your seeing it at face value yes druid has most life but we also have lowest defense thus giving defense bonus to spirit of barbs
oak dies to everything so to balance it make it unattackable but give it like a 20 second timer so its up to us to keep it running by recasting which makes us vulnerable to taking damage so its fair

im saying make all spirit unattackable so they dont die immedietly that they spawn its both a pvp and pve issue


I get that, still big no.

If I get x seconds of oak immunity, I cast oak and immediately stomp. I now have 7k life in addition to a BEEFY summon stack and my opponent has no counter play. Nothing is going to kill that.

Druids with a paper oak are already top tier.
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Jan 26 2022 11:21pm
Quote (Bugeater @ Jan 26 2022 11:19pm)
I get that, still big no.

If I get x seconds of oak immunity, I cast oak and immediately stomp. I now have 7k life in addition to a BEEFY summon stack and my opponent has no counter play. Nothing is going to kill that.

Druids with a paper oak are already top tier.



Wind druids only, perhaps make oak sage untargettable only if summoner is shapeshifted
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