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Jan 26 2022 06:56pm
They ruined my 99fcr tele wolf... I used a rare eth gpa with repair 40 ias fools ed and 2 sockets 40/15 shael... Literally unstoppable. Had this in legacy. You couldn't wsg away as the 4 reach would range pk you
99fcr teleporting is fast enough to chain lock. The cast animation of turning back into human was like 3fpa and turning into wolf at 99fcr was fast enough to chain and telestomp transform WHACK.
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Jan 26 2022 06:59pm
Quote (oscarmk @ Jan 26 2022 04:48pm)
I am really hoping they do, otherwise RIP shapeshifters


i feel like the route they should have went was this

oak sage, heart of wolverine, spirit of barbs should be non attackable summons like ravens, OR give them a duration so they cant be hit but eventually you have to recast them once timer runs out to make it fair

oak sage---fine with making it the health option possibly give it health regen properties to synergies with carrion vine in healing
heart of wolverine--- give it a ias bonus like bos or fana to make it a viable option for bear or wolf so we have to choose dmg,ar,ias or health with oak spirit
spirit of barbs--- defense bonus with the thorns because shifters have none and gives us more than 3k defense

with these changes it makes the spirits equally viable and makes us want to invest points into them

rabies--- make accessible for both bear and wolf form----since when cant bears contract rabies lmfao

leave werewolf ias calc as it was or increase slightly so that wolf form is the faster shifter form
raise the floor of bear form ias so skills other than fireclaw in bear form are viable with normal or with ias levels to how wolf is now

This post was edited by Lycans on Jan 26 2022 07:04pm
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Jan 26 2022 07:05pm
Quote (Lycans @ Jan 26 2022 06:59pm)
i feel like the route they should have went was this

oak sage, heart of wolverine, spirit of barbs should be non attackable summons like ravens, OR give them a duration so they cant be hit but eventually you have to recast them once timer runs out to make it fair

oak sage---fine with making it the health option possibly give it health regen properties to synergies with carrion vine in healing
heart of wolverine--- give it a ias bonus like bos or fana to make it a viable option for bear or wolf so we have to choose dmg,ar,ias or health with oak spirit
spirit of barbs--- defense with the thorns bonus because shifters have none and gives us more than 3k defense

with these changes it makes the spirits equally viable and makes us want to invest points into them

rabies--- make accessible for both bear and wolf form----since when cant bears contract rabies lmfao

leave werewolf ias calc as it was or increase slightly so that wolf form is the faster shifter form
raise the floor of bear form ias so skills other than fireclaw in bear form are viable with normal or with ias levels to how wolf is now


These are good changes, I really thing that the 3 FPA we had at release and IAS counting outside of equipment was a good spot, additionally because there aren't 5% faster run/walk small charms or 08 highlords, I really think we need a Skill FRW, could be added as a bonus to werewolf and werebear easily.
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Jan 26 2022 07:08pm
Quote (oscarmk @ Jan 26 2022 05:05pm)
These are good changes, I really thing that the 3 FPA we had at release and IAS counting outside of equipment was a good spot, additionally because there aren't 5% faster run/walk small charms or 08 highlords, I really think we need a Skill FRW, could be added as a bonus to werewolf and werebear easily.


feral rage gives frw charges you have to see it as both pvp AND pve changes pve werewolves use feral and fury
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Jan 26 2022 07:09pm
Quote (Lycans @ Jan 26 2022 07:08pm)
feral rage gives frw charges you have to see it as both pvp AND pve changes pve werewolves use feral and fury


It does, but perhaps take it away from feral and keep feral as leech and add it to werewolf instead. I mean if barb has passive skill FRW, why can't we?, charging Feral for extra life leech is fine, but we need FRW in both pve and pvp...

This post was edited by oscarmk on Jan 26 2022 07:10pm
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Quote (oscarmk @ Jan 26 2022 05:09pm)
It does, but perhaps take it away from feral and keep feral as leech and add it to werewolf instead.


true i can agree with that so it keeps wolves the faster morph and bears the damage morph
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Jan 26 2022 07:11pm
Quote (AnthroWolphie @ Jan 26 2022 07:56pm)
They ruined my 99fcr tele wolf... I used a rare eth gpa with repair 40 ias fools ed and 2 sockets 40/15 shael... Literally unstoppable. Had this in legacy. You couldn't wsg away as the 4 reach would range pk you
99fcr teleporting is fast enough to chain lock. The cast animation of turning back into human was like 3fpa and turning into wolf at 99fcr was fast enough to chain and telestomp transform WHACK.


Considering these changes have only occured on the ptr realm how have they ruined your character that isn't on the ptr realm?
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Jan 26 2022 07:12pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jan 26 2022 05:11pm)
Considering these changes have only occured on the ptr realm how have they ruined your character that isn't on the ptr realm?


because the statement they said to our complaints in theory show they dont want to change the nerf they made so his build wont tele attack as fast

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/druid-ww-and-wb-attack-speed-changes/102171



This post was edited by Lycans on Jan 26 2022 07:13pm
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jan 26 2022 08:11pm)
Considering these changes have only occured on the ptr realm how have they ruined your character that isn't on the ptr realm?


This is on legacy and once implemented it will be over as no one is even on legacy
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Jan 26 2022 08:43pm
Quote (Lycans @ 26 Jan 2022 18:59)
i feel like the route they should have went was this

oak sage, heart of wolverine, spirit of barbs should be non attackable summons like ravens, OR give them a duration so they cant be hit but eventually you have to recast them once timer runs out to make it fair

oak sage---fine with making it the health option possibly give it health regen properties to synergies with carrion vine in healing
heart of wolverine--- give it a ias bonus like bos or fana to make it a viable option for bear or wolf so we have to choose dmg,ar,ias or health with oak spirit
spirit of barbs--- defense bonus with the thorns because shifters have none and gives us more than 3k defense

with these changes it makes the spirits equally viable and makes us want to invest points into them

rabies--- make accessible for both bear and wolf form----since when cant bears contract rabies lmfao

leave werewolf ias calc as it was or increase slightly so that wolf form is the faster shifter form
raise the floor of bear form ias so skills other than fireclaw in bear form are viable with normal or with ias levels to how wolf is now


you want oak to be non-attackable... lol?

the rest of this sounds cool, but lets not massively buff already top tier builds
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