I'm not agree with that.

Of course, with sunder, cold can farm everywhere and with low gear.
But, the mechanics of cold build are weak. Because of cooldown, trash aoe, orb range, the mechanism of blizzard which miss sometimes nearly walls and immobile targets

Imo, full stuff light/fire sorc with sunder > cold sorc with sunder

but that was a comparison about self-found early ladder builds. You need a huge amount of gear (mostly infinity) before light builds can compete at all

Yeah, need 2 weeks.

I'll never buy a cold sunder, and even more, if i have the luck to found one early, you really think i'm gonna keep it with all this plebs who adore the cold sunder like it's a new divinity and will want to buy it expensiv early before the desillusion ?

That's the main trait of an S+ class build. Or, atleast, the most relevant one when things reset.

This post was edited by ulmaguest on Oct 3 2022 03:16pm

So why physical builds and summoners are not S++ ?

Fire should be okay with flickering flame, Phoenix, infinity, and sunder.

Not great. But way better than it is now.

Because Physical builds are extremely gear reliant?

Phys builds need GFG gear to even be half-way decent

This post was edited by ulmaguest on Oct 3 2022 03:18pm

yo ive been away for a while just heard about these charms
are they available in NL too?

what a stupid fucking change, fuck llama and his crying about this since day 1 of sunder charm announcement.

I mainly thought about summoners

They can farm everywhere, naked, and without sunder charm. Why Necro, or even Druid, summoners are not S+ ? considering it's the main trait ?

This post was edited by ajnag on Oct 3 2022 03:20pm