This thread deserves more attention<3

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/patch-2-druid-ias/111923/111

It seems like there's more "discovery" to this and it is getting more complicated

https://github.com/ChthonVII/d2r_24ptr2_wereform_calculator/issues/1

Ok this doesn’t sound good at all , what do you think?

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 17 2022 03:57pm

Uh...yeah, what the hell is going on here lol

It seems warren calc was updated with what is now thought to be the correct base speed, in short all 2 handers now reach 3 fpa easier, tomb now can reach it even with 2x Lo in the weapon. However reaching 3 frames with one hand is now very hard, and not achievable without sacrificing Fort etc with a Berseker Axe which is very sad, you stay at 4 frames, it is still achievable with Grief PB though.

So tomb is now a better option than originally thought, GPA needs much less IAS now for 3 frames, and EBOTD GT needs almost no IAS for 3 frames, the main benefit of ebotd being the 5 range, but tomb has the all resistances, and can use at least 1 Lo or 40/15 max, or 2 and use some heavier IAS off weapon

Worth noting that according to that calc rabies easily reaches 4 frames, but tested and said rabies was much slower

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 17 2022 05:03pm

Wow, that would make Tomb a very awesome 2 hander...it'd be cool to be able to 2x Lo it. We've been stuck needing to put IAS jewels in there for so long.

this is why I've refrained from buying anything and dropping a lot of fg... looks like we don't even have definitive answers quite yet. Sigh. I did like the idea of using a Grief BA but it seems like that's not super plausible now.

Yeah still unclear whats the real calculation… 2x Lo would be cool I think, I think I might still try to use EBOTD GT versus casters because range 5 is significant from 4, as opposed to 3 to 4. Might even use steelrends with the ebotd GT, can then use blood amulet and just need 15 ias helm. EBOTD GPA, apparently only needs 35 IAS, which can be 20 gloves, 15 ias helm and blood amulet or some convo like that.

I think EBOTD GT would still be a good option due to the range, I think you could get resistances from somewhere else such as a belt and blood amulet, or a cool circlet or something....

Yeah I think a cool circlet would be good, I have one with 34 all resistances and 69 LR after socketing it with 15@ jewel. I think EBOTD GPA due to higher average damage is a great option too, if you use steelrends with GT then it would be close not sure how close. EBOTD GT can reach the very last BP 4/3/3/3/5 as opposed to 4/3/3/3/6 but that’s just the last frame, which may or may not help 🤔

A 40% IAS Grief PB only needs 17 equipment IAS for 3 frames, but a grief 40% BA needs 117 which is near impossible…

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 17 2022 05:25pm

I cant read all that now.
And im far from as skilled in computer science as those guys.

However they seemed to miss that diablo 2 actually has a 24frames breakpoint system running on a 25fps engine which is now scaled to 60fps.

Also that the -1 in the animation formulas is actually to smoothen out animations by cutting 1 frame in the beginning or the end of an animation.

Unfurnately i did not have my pc with me while testing, so i could just do simple spot tests that was on point Enought for the human eye to see xD

I know old calculators used to even out rollback by simply multiply the baseframe with forexample 0,7 as in *(100/rollback). This would be extreamly close to what theese formulas gives, but give same fpa on the 4 first hits..

I dno, i read it later.

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 17 2022 05:29pm