All these days later, and build #2 is still #1 because survivability is a non-issue above 3k mana and dps is moar

This post was edited by JiroJif on Oct 31 2025 05:53pm

B-b-but muh mdr

Tried obsession(to easily swap to increased mf) is it just that I suck, or is just all around not as good.
+3 nova base.

Doesnt exactly fit with the thread, but seemed like a good place to post it.

Look at post #76

Obsession is added to the comparison.
Even with an insight merc AND an infinity merc following you it’s not as good

Ty sir.

Although I reach -30 via griff and facet, is the info I needed

The difference is very noticeable, thought it was just me and my janky playing on handheld.

Also Pr/plr booties beat treks or no?

Look at post #77 for boots

I did!

Poison length reduced, worth having or is max pr enough.

It seems like it is, but I also run prayer/cure/insight merc so could be in my head, confirmation bias.

If you have max pr and cure you really don’t need plr.
Plr is also competing against cure, as cleansing removes 39% of the remaining duration each 2 seconds.
If you reduce the total length with plr then cleansing doesn’t have much effectiveness as it reduces 39% of a smaller amount.

Thank you.
This is exactly what I was looking for.

0.64% dmg has virtually no chance to reduce the number of nova required to kill.
See, increasing dps is not linearly increasing your clear speed.
It’s a step in thresholds.

On the other hand, the extra radius added to the outside limit of your static area is exponential. This will reduce your number of cast at all time.

So build #1 is a bit better offensively also, if you can interpret the data correctly.
They’re very close indeed.
But there’s a good advantage of using viper vs ormus in tankyness, if the faster clear speed from viper is not enough to convince someone already.