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Jan 22 2022 11:48pm
Seems like regular Druid IAS breakpoints will be the same as WW IAS breakpoints now. (with WW innate IAS counted as weapon IAS)

This post was edited by SlipKnirvana on Jan 22 2022 11:48pm
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Jan 22 2022 11:55pm
sounds like it works like bos or fanat now.
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Jan 23 2022 12:17am
Quote (slimeseason @ Jan 22 2022 02:49pm)
They need to give druid in shapeshifting teleport, otherwise he's still gonna be garbage end game



Yeee, pretty keen to do tp bear PvP aha
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Jan 23 2022 08:07am
If off weapon ias works effectively now, what about Fanatism aura? :bouncy:
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Jan 23 2022 08:08am
Quote (slimeseason @ Jan 21 2022 08:49pm)
They need to give druid in shapeshifting teleport, otherwise he's still gonna be garbage end game


this

if they could tele in ss form they'd actually be a fun pvm character
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Jan 23 2022 08:36am
I wish they would allow druids (and shapeshift in general as from beast / wolfhowl) use teleport and other than weapon ias
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Jan 23 2022 09:05am
Currently, werewolf has different animations than a druid and wonky and complicated ways to calculate its attack speed. This also allows for faster possible attack speeds.
Right now werewolf (anim code 40) has animations of:
A1: 13 frames, 256 speed, 7 action
A2: 13 frames, 256 speed, 7 action
S1: 16 frames, 256 speed
S3: 10 frames, 240 speed, 6 action
S4: 7 frames, 152 speed, 4 action

13 base frames for an attack animation is very fast. For contrast, the human druid has

A1/A2 - 1HS - 19 frames, 256 speed, 9 action (1 hand swing weapons)
A1/A2 - 2HS - 21 frames, 256 speed, 10 action (2 hand swing weapons)
A1/A2 - 1HT - 19 frames, 256 speed, 8 action (1 hand thrust weapons)
A1/A2 - 2HT - 23 frames, 256 speed, 9 action (2 hand thrust weapons)
A1 - H2H - 16 frames, 256 speed, 8 action (unarmed)
A1/A2 - STF - 17 frames, 256 speed, 9 action (staff)
A1 - BOW - 16 frames, 256 speed, 8 action (bow)
A1 - XBW - 20 frames, 256 speed, 10 faction (crossbow)


Animations are capped at +75% EIAS after all effects added together, so no matter how much EIAS a skill adds, at some point it becomes redundant. If werewolf attack frames are made equal to druid human attack frames with that much +% EIAS on the skill, and they keep the +75% max cap in place, then werewolf druids are going to attack miserably fucking slow compared to how they do right now.
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Jan 23 2022 09:15am
They are doing the same thing to the bear, so...

What about bear sorc?

Or Wolfhowl barb?

:huh:
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Jan 23 2022 09:24am
Yea honestly the way the worded this it sounds like a nerf, shapeshifted attack frames are much faster than human attack frames
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Jan 25 2022 03:04pm
Hopped on and couldn't tell a difference, I stacked IAS on everything and it was still slow, so my hope that off weapon ias would work appears to be false
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