Quote (FoldersUnite @ Jul 17 2026 02:00pm)

it's very good with chant and infinity merc! I 99'ed one a couple seasons back via tz. gear wise, the only big difference is eth warshrike, razortail, gores and 2barb/20fcr circlet with ias and max damage jewels. Make sure you hit 105 cast and you're basically just throwing down bosses and unravellers.

Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jul 17 2026 03:07pm)

I have a 120/45/30frw circ I was thinking of trying. dont need razortail cuz my pierce is near max anyway imo. just doesn't seem like the dps is enough to warrant buying an eth warshrike, and I doubt 120 extra ed would change that. I can see the qol with a faith merc not having to frenzy for bos, but from my early tests in chaos sanc I was only doing maybe 1/10 of infectors life per volley, vs the near instant dead from a tele/warcry/ww with decrep merc

idk maybe there are some videos showing this build in action cuz what i saw first hand was :baby:

Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jul 17 2026 02:03pm)

Best barb build is throw/ww hybrid using metamorphosis.

MotB > BoS
A single attack with beast on swap and it’s active for 3 mins instead of 5% ctc to be active for 2 mins. It also comes with 20% DR
You reach max ww/throw speed using death+beast on swap, which is used vs tanky targets (high CB%), while throw is better than ww for density destroying.
Best of both worlds.

You still get to use a pride might merc.
A normal ww barb would have less ed% cuz he’d use a reaper merc.
And he’d have less -DR cuz self-triggered amp > decrep

But ofc we’re talking about barb… in pvm… don’t expect it to compete against some S tier casters lol

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to be fair, chaos is one of the worst zones for barb. High health mobs, high base DR, I think they can block, and high density.

Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jul 17 2026 03:11pm)

hybrid I can get behind. I never got to enjoy 1.09 barbs where double throw was the staple swap, and I have an itch to try this out. This is partially the build I was going for but I didn't consider MotB. I am not really comparing this to other classes, just vs my own experience when lvling barb. Since time is a factor here, I think I will probably just go back to the str + grief +ww build so I don't need to prebuff. If I want to spend time horking, the elite hunting style ww prefers also compliments this.

is there a way to cause double throw not to proc the 'hit causes mon to flee' stat of lac? I thought I recall reading something by ^goomshill ages ago that mentioned something like this with warshrike, but I might be misremembering a bit, 'twas a while ago.


see I never had trouble clearing seals with ww barb though. I did optimize my merc with 45 ias hat and hysteria armor with a shael reaper's toll tho. Mobs were basically always decrepped the moment I telestomped and warcried, upon which with the dtd from grief + loh would just melt infector and his boys like butter.

Quote (Humbolt @ Jul 17 2026 03:37pm)

I have frenzy, ww and throw barb on sp, yes ww and frenzy is stronger(I would point to grief). It's a different play style. I guess you're referring to stuff like maxroll rating throw above ww, I would say they're wrong. Also, looks like you're lacking pierce