Kinda meeh indeed. Still decent if you go phys damage.
I am fully skipping bind demon for my 99 push.

fire still good, echo got some nerf but still pretty good
from what I know you can't bind demon with conviction aura but beside that it's still very strong (summon builds)
there are videos out there on youtube you can watch.
Emilio just have to hold infinity now thats all lol

That means that he can't hold insight, and with the high mana consumption of apocalypse you will have to chug mana potions constantly. A massive nerf in terms of gameplay enjoyability.

put a point into hex: siphon. Not as good as insight, but it still helps

This post was edited by athirstymonkey on May 18 2026 09:37am

It was very cool to break immunities with convic and cursed, you can still do cursed, which means you can farm TZ as echoing for sure and do magic/physical.
They super nerfed bind demon. It definitely can't tank ubers now like it used to, got weaker than a merc, but they are rebuffing it a bit, not sure it's strength.

Probably a budget fire lock with obedience/rhyme and a flickering flame is viable with a sunder on p5+
Abyss viable too

Seems in a good spot

Horker Travincal is unbeatable for wealth on bnet anyways
Super early blizz
Long term viable is chaos hammerdin
But Lock can do chaos too and TZ so seems in a good spot

emilo for sure can hold insight
i think fire lock would prio enigma over infinity

you can sunder + 6facet crystal sword or obedience and flickering flame with a sunder charm thats now back on the menu is about as budget as you can get and have -55 EFR while having insight merc

Budget Obedience/Rhyme/Flickering Flame
Merc Insight

Rich options
6os crystal -30+30 / mang song / ars diablos / hellwardens / circlet / phoenix shield / infinity merc

This post was edited by ahyp on May 18 2026 09:48am

Pls dont encourage ppl to play this shit in pvp

inst blood boil with tainted shuld be pretty good for p8


you shuld not really need infinity with sunder

3 tainted + blood boild shuld be enought for anything

You’re right

My new recommendation is to just delete your warlocks guys

Will you be running magic (abyss chains etc)? That seems to not really need demon at all and got a lot stronger eh?