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May 3 2026 09:13am
Fireball /meteor sorc melts shit

Theyre good

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May 3 2026 09:15am
phoenix sux in my eyes u gona rip often u need some fhr^^
biggest dmg spell ingame is static and u gona up it last? u dont need static only if u pvp
im maxing static first aways
do whatever is fun for ya


Is it possible to take 6os Crystal sword and put 6x 10/-10 defender fire in it ?
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May 3 2026 09:20am
Fire sorc is pretty easily the best sorc now when fully slotted out
Blizzard is better for weak gear setups and doing shit farming, I mean you can grind trav with a nearly naked sorc

BiS fire sorc really gets to choose between 10x facets or 2x phoenix or a mix. Giving +50/30/0% fire, -50/58/56% pierce, and 0/80/99.2% chance of 0/95/170 life+mana redeemed per corpse (ev 0/76/169 per corpse per tick)
so in total;

phoenix sword (or 30/30)
phoenix shield (or 20/20)
ormus or vipermagi (defender's fire)
3/20/2 circlet or flickering flame
+2 sorc / 15+ fcr crafted ammy
magefist
soj+opalvein or 2x opalvein
arachs
resist boots
cta/spirit swap
merc with infinity cure coh

Now you can also use a 3/20/2 circlet with 2x facet, and ormus + 1 soj, and probably need flickering flame on merc to compensate your list fire resist.
There's some tradeoffs for QoL features here, going all-in on damage. To list a few permutations:

2x phoenix with viper/2x opal/ff = 16136 fb / 3934 hydra with -91% pierce, with 2x 30 redemption aura, cleansing aura, 42 sorb + 90f/80l res
2x phoenix with ormus/soj+opal/magus = 18609 fb / 4120 hydra with -86% pierce, with 2x 30 redemption aura, 42 sorb + 85f/80l res (no cleansing) <--- recommended imo
30/30 sword + phoenix with viper/2x opal/ff = 17281 fb / 4213 hydra with -93% pierce, with 1x 15 redemption aura, cleansing aura, 21 sorb + 90f/80l res
30/30 sword + phoenix with ormus/soj+opal/magus = 19869 fb / 4399 hydra with -88% pierce, with 1x 15 redemption aura, 21 sorb + 85f/80l (no cleansing) <--- or this one good too
50/50 facets + viper/2x opal/ff = 18044 fb / 4399 hydra with -85% pierce, cleansing aura and 80f/75l res (no redemption or sorb)
50/50 facets + ormus/soj+opal/magus = 20709 fb / 4585 hydra with -80% pierce, 75f/75l res (no redemption or cleansing aura, no sorb, no max res)

The 30/30 sword and ormus setup gives the most damage while still keeping high pierce and 1x redemption aura and some resists/orb, the 20/20 facet shield is impractical because the 4% more damage not whatsoever worth the lost -8% pierce and other benefits.
But you only lose about -6% overall damage and -2% pierce to go up to 2x phoenix and have that double redemption aura / double sorb. But using flickering flame/viper means losing a big chunk of damage, you're down -19% from the 30/30+ormus setup, or -13% from the 2x phoenix+ormus setup.


I will say from experience having a fire sunder build that needs the +fire resist from merc flickering flame puts you in jeopardy against fire damage heralds. One of my only deaths on warlock was to a pack of flame mages in abaddon when they killed my merc, which removes resist fire aura, then chunked me for 4000 hp instantly because I was at negative fire resist. The ormus build can still hit max fire/light/poison resists (probably not at same time as cold, but it doesn't matter) but you do take more poison dps with no PLR/cleansing and have a risk to fire if merc dies

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 3 2026 09:23am
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May 3 2026 09:32am
It's bad.

AoE is small and even then half of it is wasted because it explodes on the first monster, at the edge of the pack.

And the build costs a lot.

This post was edited by kayko on May 3 2026 09:33am
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May 3 2026 09:37am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58u_hVLyfNI

I say B, aoe on fire sorc is very bad. all dat sheet damage couldn't really translate to game play as you can see he's struggling to clear p8 cow at decent pacing.


that build is very very very bad though

fire sorc relies heavily on -resist

you rly need that viper magic diadem 35/35 weapon phoenix build

i used to run with a friend using this for terror zone leveling and he oneshot the crap out of every elite pack in p8, and since for leveling thats just what you focus on, i found it really good
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May 3 2026 11:13am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58u_hVLyfNI

I say B, aoe on fire sorc is very bad. all dat sheet damage couldn't really translate to game play as you can see he's struggling to clear p8 cow at decent pacing.


ah yes most important thing is to after gearing wrong is plug in a controller and play like shit - no meteor or static on baal waves?
comments like elon too

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May 3 2026 11:13am
The max DPS fire sorc is either:
1. FBolt/FBall/meteor/hydra/FM+1pt wonders
2. FBolt/FBall/meteor/FM/static+1pt wonders

Gear is magefist, phoenix shield, +30/-30 cs, viper, arachs, 3/10 amulet, 3/20 +15/-15 circlet, soj, fire opal, es/ca cta staff, and any boots. If you're going max static route, maybe use griffon's and 2 sojs.

Fire sorcs are terrible at full clearing, but no other sorc can match them at single target DPS. They are the best sorcs for herald hunting and Ubers. For pack hunting, the FBall radius sometimes doesn't cover the full pack, so the unique can be stuck in there not getting hit by FBalls to the outer pack perimeter. Meteors and hydras take time to set up that isn't necessary for a lightning build, so I think fire sorcs specialize in very tanky mobs where it's worth it to set those up.
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May 3 2026 11:15am
Fire sorc is pretty easily the best sorc now when fully slotted out
Blizzard is better for weak gear setups and doing shit farming, I mean you can grind trav with a nearly naked sorc

BiS fire sorc really gets to choose between 10x facets or 2x phoenix or a mix. Giving +50/30/0% fire, -50/58/56% pierce, and 0/80/99.2% chance of 0/95/170 life+mana redeemed per corpse (ev 0/76/169 per corpse per tick)
so in total;

phoenix sword (or 30/30)
phoenix shield (or 20/20)
ormus or vipermagi (defender's fire)
3/20/2 circlet or flickering flame
+2 sorc / 15+ fcr crafted ammy
magefist
soj+opalvein or 2x opalvein
arachs
resist boots
cta/spirit swap
merc with infinity cure coh

Now you can also use a 3/20/2 circlet with 2x facet, and ormus + 1 soj, and probably need flickering flame on merc to compensate your list fire resist.
There's some tradeoffs for QoL features here, going all-in on damage. To list a few permutations:

2x phoenix with viper/2x opal/ff = 16136 fb / 3934 hydra with -91% pierce, with 2x 30 redemption aura, cleansing aura, 42 sorb + 90f/80l res
2x phoenix with ormus/soj+opal/magus = 18609 fb / 4120 hydra with -86% pierce, with 2x 30 redemption aura, 42 sorb + 85f/80l res (no cleansing) <--- recommended imo
30/30 sword + phoenix with viper/2x opal/ff = 17281 fb / 4213 hydra with -93% pierce, with 1x 15 redemption aura, cleansing aura, 21 sorb + 90f/80l res
30/30 sword + phoenix with ormus/soj+opal/magus = 19869 fb / 4399 hydra with -88% pierce, with 1x 15 redemption aura, 21 sorb + 85f/80l (no cleansing) <--- or this one good too
50/50 facets + viper/2x opal/ff = 18044 fb / 4399 hydra with -85% pierce, cleansing aura and 80f/75l res (no redemption or sorb)
50/50 facets + ormus/soj+opal/magus = 20709 fb / 4585 hydra with -80% pierce, 75f/75l res (no redemption or cleansing aura, no sorb, no max res)

The 30/30 sword and ormus setup gives the most damage while still keeping high pierce and 1x redemption aura and some resists/orb, the 20/20 facet shield is impractical because the 4% more damage not whatsoever worth the lost -8% pierce and other benefits.
But you only lose about -6% overall damage and -2% pierce to go up to 2x phoenix and have that double redemption aura / double sorb. But using flickering flame/viper means losing a big chunk of damage, you're down -19% from the 30/30+ormus setup, or -13% from the 2x phoenix+ormus setup.


I will say from experience having a fire sunder build that needs the +fire resist from merc flickering flame puts you in jeopardy against fire damage heralds. One of my only deaths on warlock was to a pack of flame mages in abaddon when they killed my merc, which removes resist fire aura, then chunked me for 4000 hp instantly because I was at negative fire resist. The ormus build can still hit max fire/light/poison resists (probably not at same time as cold, but it doesn't matter) but you do take more poison dps with no PLR/cleansing and have a risk to fire if merc dies


Do you know if you can put 6x Defender Fire in a 6os Crystal sword ? Prolly better then 30/-30 with facets?
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May 3 2026 11:30am
Bro fb meteor sorc is so damn good 🤣 used to do uber with it years ago. Very fun and strong
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May 3 2026 11:33am
Do you know if you can put 6x Defender Fire in a 6os Crystal sword ? Prolly better then 30/-30 with facets?


you can't socket more than one uber ancient jewel in one item, nor can you equip 2 different items socketed with uber jewels, nor can you socket an uber jewel into an item you are wearing if you're already wearing an item with an uber jewel socketed in it
those 3 restrictions cover it pretty handily

you can however wear one uber ancients jewel on yourself, and another on your merc. Which matters for using skin of the flayed one / greyform on your merc with protector's stone in it, since it adds so much physical damage it nearly ties chains of honor. But not as much leech, its a tradeoff for the 1% ctc fade.
(it doesn't benefit from the +xp to your merc or self as far as I know, not that I tested)

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 3 2026 11:37am
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