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Apr 30 2026 12:23pm
Didn't read but I agree


Very helpful insight, will be sure to pm to discuss builds in the future
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Apr 30 2026 12:28pm
If we are talking pure melee vs melee you gotta run 50% DR

You're vs all - so it kinda comes down to whether or not you're getting slapped by phys dmg and want to correct that or not

In zeal vs zeal it's tempting to run coa + dungo for a lot of builds.. but consider the implication

That means every hit is dealing 0.54 damage compared to 0.5 damage.

You might think that's just 4% more damage because its 4% less DR, so the difference between 4000 life and 4160 life

But actually it's 8% more damage (0.54/0.5) .. thats 4000 life vs 4320 life


For pure melee vs melee it's almost never better to run anything less than 50%. I don't want to say never but it's pretty safe to say a better option likely exists with 50%

BUT that's not your use case..

Imo it's typically better to have more options so just get another coa


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Apr 30 2026 12:37pm
If we are talking pure melee vs melee you gotta run 50% DR

You're vs all - so it kinda comes down to whether or not you're getting slapped by phys dmg and want to correct that or not

In zeal vs zeal it's tempting to run coa + dungo for a lot of builds.. but consider the implication

That means every hit is dealing 0.54 damage compared to 0.5 damage.

You might think that's just 4% more damage because its 4% less DR, so the difference between 4000 life and 4160 life

But actually it's 8% more damage (0.54/0.5) .. thats 4000 life vs 4320 life


For pure melee vs melee it's almost never better to run anything less than 50%. I don't want to say never but it's pretty safe to say a better option likely exists with 50%

BUT that's not your use case..

Imo it's typically better to have more options so just get another coa


ty for your respons, ive got plenty swap hats in the stash but with bmrs and juvers need to run something more agresive. i supose they running COA with Protector's Stone Bererd. the thing is i dont want to spend 5k fg on a hat just to fight dumbs thats why im asking this stupid Question. vs physical i use to wear coa ber ber or 20fcr 3x ber. in Gm thats enough...
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Apr 30 2026 12:41pm
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Apr 30 2026 01:15pm
I wouldn’t get a 2nd CoA
I’d get a circ (or a few different circs)

You’ll want to use something else than your berber coa vs matchups that should mostly benefit more from the affixes of a good circ.
Matchups that don’t require DR, but require more mobility.

A good 2/20fcr/30frw/2os circ will grant you extra mobility to catch non-melee matchups (may require minor adjustments to reach next fcr bp) while also letting you use those sockets for either extra dmg, or stacked res, or max res, or life, ar, fhr, etc… all the things that still matter when DR% doesnt.

Getting a 2nd CoA doesn’t give as much flexibility.
Think about what you want vs elemental and magic dmg, vs elusive ranged matchups.

Hard to tell without knowing your full setup and if you already have a bunch of item swaps
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