How about tainted fireball dmg with the fixed synergy?

Made a necro with curses matching the radius of Blood Boil to give a visual to the ranges. Somewhere along the line, some one clearly messed up with the range description.

Image 1 - 4 yard radius. What the change was announced as according to previous standards already established in game, with minion at the center. Barely melee range.




Image 2 - 8 yard radius. This is what I believe the new range actually is and where the error is. Rather than 4 yard its actually 8. Not the huge splash we get and iirc matches Nova radius.




Image 3 - 16.6 yard radius. What current live range of level 39 Blood Boil claims to be. I've been told the current tooltip is wrong and its actually 10.3, which matches how it feels for sure.



This post was edited by Swirl on Apr 15 2026 07:38am

The current radius is 10.3 yds
The tooltip is wrong

Definitely felt smaller than 16.6, I'll toss in a 10.3 in a second. Thanks.

Image 4 - 10 yards (had to choose between 10 and 10.6) .3 yards smaller than live. This is what it is now.


This post was edited by Swirl on Apr 15 2026 07:43am

still better than nova purely based off of fact that you can death mark

I havnt played on the PTR, but if it’s simply nerfed from 10.3 to 8 yds, it’s not so bad.
8yds is the same radius as nova

The main nerf comes from the demon’s lower ctc amp and no conviction. Also no -dr from lethargy (which was helping vs bosses) and the lower life of the demon.

All builds suffer from the nerfs of the demon tree, but blood boil a bit less since it was already maxing those skills that now require hard points.

Anyone tested the Tainted?
Maybe they’re worth using now and could compensate a bit for BB builds since they already max their synergy

Tainted damage is insane now vs non fire immunes. P8 Eldritch pack gets insta killed lol. Unfortunately -res on gear has no effect on tainted summons so fire immunes are a huge problem.

Yeah, the radius nerf alone isn't as bad as announced and I'm not even against it. The CTC, no Conviction, and no -DR fom Lethargy are just brutal once piled on top of it and where I feel they went overboard with collateral damage from other build nerfs and makes it feel so much worse than just the smaller splash.

I'm testing out a Tainted/BB build now, raw numbers are showing 32.5-36k each on Maxroll.


First thoughts, the damage is real. Problems come from fire immunes and that they stack on you while you teleport and it stops my spearwoman from actually running into the packs. Even when you run around to scatter them they just stand still firing which traps the main demon under them. Have to send them in with DM and it doesn't feel good.
It also traps the merc, which keeps Conviction out of range until his slow ass walks up to something after they're gone. DM can't fix that. Another negative mark on play style there.

This post was edited by Swirl on Apr 15 2026 08:25am

So tainteds could fix the problem of the lethargy nerf vs bosses.

I understand the build feels much worse now, but let’s be honest it was completely busted…

It’s still hybrid dmg
It’s still very tanky and can farm at a safe distance
It still have access to amp (even if it takes longer to trigger)
It still should be able to go through the game without a sunder, even vs dual immunes

So IMO it looks balanced and we just need to lower our expectations about the warlock builds.
Mosaic shouldn’t be the reference of what is good.
A better comparison would be blizz sorc. And from what I see (without having tested it) it seems pretty good overall.

I'm not complaining and definitely not using Mosaic as the standard for whats good.

I don't mind strong but I don't like broken builds, and tbh I was beginning to sour with how strong BB was. I never touched ES locks or Mosaics and my main is a Necro summoner with a one point CE for tactical damage rather than max for screen clear.
Speed and damage are far from my concerns. I care much more about feel of play.

Hybrid damage is definitely there
Very tanky with Blood Oath. Max Engorge and Syphon give plenty of sustain if you use BB for kills. Pure summoner without BB has left me a bit at a loss for sustain through chip damage though. Potions work sure but meh
Amp is still there - I'd say a spearwoman is now even more important with the extra jab hits for proc chances, especially if you don't run Holy Frost
Pure summoner is slow but absolutely capable of playing without a sunder, even in p8, I can't see hybrid damage being any worse. Phys immunes are a problem with less reliable Amp/Lethargy DR loss. I can see fire/phys immunes being stop signs to kill while you wait on an Amp proc.

I won't say its not usable or even weak, but I don't like the feel of it

On an unrelated note, they seem to have fixed Baal's AI when slowed. He no longer stands there and gets punched when under Lethargy.
Edit: Tested Clay Golem, AI still borked. Tested Decrep too, also borked. Maybe its just Lethargy.

Looks like Lethargy's speed decrease isn't working in PTR? Regular mobs walk through it at normal speed.

This post was edited by Swirl on Apr 15 2026 09:07am