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Those first few points into lowering a monster resist below 95% make a huge difference
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Your statement makes no sense, and even what you meant, is extremely ironic.
Concentration damage is additive with all other sources that increase damage by a percentage, for pretty much all the compatible skills in the game.
Magic dmg % is clearly an exception, with blessed hammer at least.
Nice try.


it makes tons of sense

concentration shouldn't work with blessed hammer, but it does due to a bug that was never fixed. Given how it multiplies the magic damage of blessed hammer in a way it shouldnt, the equation works like this:
(B hammer damage x magic damage % ) x Conc %

so yes.. if you know how conc works, you would not expect magic damage % to be additive to conc %, as conc % isn't magic damage % like how lightning mastery is lightning damage % and thus a lightning facet is just additive to the already existing lightning damage % you have.

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it makes tons of sense

concentration shouldn't work with blessed hammer, but it does due to a bug that was never fixed. Given how it multiplies the magic damage of blessed hammer in a way it shouldnt, the equation works like this:
(B hammer damage x magic damage % ) x Conc %

so yes.. if you know how conc works, you would not expect magic damage % to be additive to conc %, as conc % isn't magic damage % like how lightning mastery is lightning damage % and thus a lightning facet is just additive to the already existing lightning damage % you have.

:bonk:

So your argument is "Because it's not an attack, and not physical damage, it has to be multiplicative."
That's highly arbitrary reasoning.
It could very well be additive as well, just like with all other skills affected by Concentration.
At least you're now admitting that it's an exception, we're moving forward.

This post was edited by xhul on Mar 31 2026 07:19pm
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So your argument is "Because it's not an attack, and not physical damage, it has to be multiplicative."
That's highly arbitrary reasoning.
It could very well be additive as well, just like with all other skills affected by Concentration.


What im saying is..


If you know how concentration actually works, you wouldn't think +Magic damage % would be additive to conc.

Because its not.

For people that do know what conc works, the assumption wouldn't be magic damage % + Conc % = total %. They would know it would be (Hammer x magic damage % ) x Conc %)



But because you dont know how it works, you made the wrong assumption
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Mar 31 2026 07:39pm
For people that do know what conc works, the assumption wouldn't be magic damage % + Conc % = total %. They would know it would be (Hammer x magic damage % ) x Conc %)

Here's 1 source that shows that aura dmg increases (not just Conc) are supposed to be additive with other dmg increase sources:
https://www.mannm.org/d2library/faqtoids/physd_eng.html#mod
Now, your turn, show me 1 source that shows that having Conc behave multiplicatively with inc magic dmg % is expected.
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Here's 1 source that shows that aura dmg increases (not just Conc) are supposed to be additive with other dmg increase sources:
https://www.mannm.org/d2library/faqtoids/physd_eng.html#mod
Now, your turn, show me 1 source that shows that having Conc behave multiplicatively with inc magic dmg % is expected.


And conc is a unique case with blessed hammer because its not supposed to actually increase blessed hammer damage.

Conc is not + magic % damage. Its + physical damage

so yes.. it makes all the sense in the world that its: (Hammer x magic damage % ) x Conc %)


im not sure why this is so difficult for you to understand.

This post was edited by NumberOneWhirlGirlEver on Mar 31 2026 08:43pm
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im not sure why this is so difficult for you to understand.

Because "It's a spell, and not physical, so it should be multiplicative." isn't an argument at all.
Additionally, you can't provide a single source showing that the interaction between Conc ED and magic ED isn't an unusual, and unexpected, behaviour.
That must be comforting to believe that everything Blizzard does is intended, i feel almost jealous.
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