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Mar 26 2026 06:26am
yeah I know, no idea why you didn't post it with a raven or cham ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


For two main reason:
1) this is not a paladin guide or build
2) the goal is to think on the effectiveness of the dual dream vs running holy shock and gather jsper opinions.

Last minor reason:
3) probably i dont care too much to get frost chilled if I dont have to do anything like attack or walk. I think im on more in: +1 skill > rbf > cbf
But yes, if it gets annoying its pretty easy to find a slot.
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Mar 26 2026 06:33am
If you want half-arsed hybrid which kills super fast in P1 2x dream wins. P3+ holy shocker wins (with teleport otherwise both suck).

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For two main reason:
1) this is not a paladin guide or build
2) the goal is to think on the effectiveness of the dual dream vs running holy shock and gather jsper opinions.

Last minor reason:
3) probably i dont care too much to get frost chilled if I dont have to do anything like attack or walk. I think im on more in: +1 skill > rbf > cbf
But yes, if it gets annoying its pretty easy to find a slot.


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Mar 26 2026 07:06am
If you want half-arsed hybrid which kills super fast in P1 2x dream wins. P3+ holy shocker wins (with teleport otherwise both suck).


P1 dual dream wins due to the "bug" that dual dream proc twice?
So why not abusing and run holy shock as mentioned and just one dream (shield)?
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Mar 26 2026 07:09am
They should've kept the 1.12 auradin aura stacking bug in the game. That would be so good for tz farming lol.
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Mar 26 2026 07:15am
P1 dual dream wins due to the "bug" that dual dream proc twice?
So why not abusing and run holy shock as mentioned and just one dream (shield)?

Because the second is going to hit with level 15 holy shock aura and you lose spirit for teleport which is much better. For pure auradin running around, dragondin is better.
The way to make P8 shocker is to use crescent moon, dracul's and +1 offensive/+4 max damage grand charms to improve leech. You go all in with lightning damage and just have enough leech to not die (griffon included).

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 26 2026 07:21am
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