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Mar 19 2026 11:58am
Definitely 20 in demon mastery before Bo so you can have your bound demon (some sort of cursed boi), and either 1 défiler and 1 consumed goatman or 2 defilers. As much as I enjoyed the frw from goatman, I ended up doing 2 defilers most of the time, consuming your precious bound demon is heartbreaking.

1 in each hex, use bane on single targets and purge or siphon for general use, either for a little more aoe or a pretty decent chunk of mana per kill/life per kill. I usually used purge since Im already wearing insight.

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Mar 19 2026 12:10pm
your setup is fine, you just went too far into filler instead of scaling the core

str for dmg is useless, dex for block on spirit is also pointless. just hit gear req and dump vita

purge is a waste past 1 point, it doesn’t scale your clear in any meaningful way. if you want a hex, keep it at 1 and move on. same for the rest, they’re utility, not something you build around

consume is not something you “need” to fix the build. it’s just an extra layer. for pvm you either run 2 defilers + bound or defiler + consumed goat if you want the qol. both work, but 2 defilers is more consistent for clear

the actual mistake is not having your core maxed. you want ES/warp/mirror/blood oath and enough demonic mastery for 3 demons. oath is what makes you tanky, not random hex or sustain stacking

remaining points go into oath or your main scaling, not into hexes

if the build feels like it needs purge or consume to function, it’s just not scaled properly yet
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Mar 19 2026 12:29pm
your setup is fine, you just went too far into filler instead of scaling the core

str for dmg is useless, dex for block on spirit is also pointless. just hit gear req and dump vita

purge is a waste past 1 point, it doesn’t scale your clear in any meaningful way. if you want a hex, keep it at 1 and move on. same for the rest, they’re utility, not something you build around

consume is not something you “need” to fix the build. it’s just an extra layer. for pvm you either run 2 defilers + bound or defiler + consumed goat if you want the qol. both work, but 2 defilers is more consistent for clear

the actual mistake is not having your core maxed. you want ES/warp/mirror/blood oath and enough demonic mastery for 3 demons. oath is what makes you tanky, not random hex or sustain stacking

remaining points go into oath or your main scaling, not into hexes

if the build feels like it needs purge or consume to function, it’s just not scaled properly yet


Awesome answer, thanks for input into basicly everything i asked about!

Yea i assumed Consume was that goat was this massive thing (mainly dmg), but like others have said, 2 defliers is also an option, have not tried any option since i saw no point in a goat, and hence dident go for 3 demons

For now, it feels obv its

"Basic spec" (1 in each hex, 3 max dmg skills) (inc full demon)
Max Blood oath
and rest in Levi (not sure if any left)

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Still not sure why 2 defilers is good, shared decused damage help them life, or do they both take the same amount (dubbling the help def bonus)

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Mar 19 2026 12:52pm
I'm running obsession + stormshield with max block and max blood oath on a hc build, nothing touches me, its nice to stand in dolls or nith and not worry about a rip. Ubers are also a breeze.

I was full vita before but I still have 2.5k hp after cta and max res max block its just untouchable.

Plus knowing if servers DC, im fine with demon and Emilio cleaning up.

Would recommend considering it if you are on hc. On sc don't bother obviously.
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I'm running obsession + stormshield with max block and max blood oath on a hc build, nothing touches me, its nice to stand in dolls or nith and not worry about a rip. Ubers are also a breeze.

I was full vita before but I still have 2.5k hp after cta and max res max block its just untouchable.

Plus knowing if servers DC, im fine with demon and Emilio cleaning up.

Would recommend considering it if you are on hc. On sc don't bother obviously.


Cool to hear, no experiance from HC
U doing 2x Defiler or Defile+Sac Goat?
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Still not sure why 2 defilers is good, shared decused damage help them life, or do they both take the same amount (dubbling the help def bonus)


Summon 2 defilers, go to somewhere with enemies and let your merc and demon hit something, you do nothing and watch. You will understand why they are so usefull.
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Cool to hear, no experiance from HC
U doing 2x Defiler or Defile+Sac Goat?


I used to eat the goat but honestly I don't even bother anymore. 2 defiler unless im doing ubers then I don't summon them as they have a huge aggro range and they piss off meph and I like to control where the fight happens.

Shako enigma highlords obsession eth archon stormshield Trang glove horazon boot for the cannot be frozen (gores at ubers) and 2x crafted dual leech fcr rings i got lucky to roll. Max block, max res, 125fcr and hit recovery and block rate is in a nice spot. 240mf as well so hes a good farmer.

Zero issues anywhere, even on p8, and almost all my gear I found using the wl including the jah and zod (lucky duck)

I benched my sorc and barb as they just cant compare at all.

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Mar 19 2026 02:10pm
Good feedback

Yea tbh I felt strong before making the post, just about midmaxing, still trying it out, but dont think iv dropped below 75% hp since respecing into Demonic Mastery..

I rly tought Sec would be the big differance, but now I just deal super solid dmg (same as before), but so much more tanky
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Mar 19 2026 02:19pm
Maxing out levitation is a waste of points.
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Maxing out levitation is a waste of points.


Thats the route i went, but why? Just dropped of scaling?
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