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Mar 11 2026 11:20am
why is this still even a thing, just remove them from the game. sick of accidentally picking these up running around. the mechanic is so bad, just make bolts & arrows a rare or unique drop that don't replenish, buff the bowazon a bit.
I wanna see more bowazons running around.

thoughts?


I get what u mean, but d2 would not be a great game if every little thing like these are removed

Stamina, arrows, repairs, other QoL stuff

The reason diablo 2 is so great is because of these things, just like everything in life
If you are always off, you dont appreciate a day off.
But if you have to work, u appreciate a day off alot more. Every design has their place and purpose in the game. I am actually not a fan of the new gem slots and rune slots. I prefer stacking them the old way. Its better for the market too

Most of the stuff people complain , they actuallt make the game more realistic,

Think of it this way, how about we remove all ammos from all shooting games? Just unlimited bullets and grenades and launchers all day?

How about we remove mana pots and just be unlimited mana? Its basically the same idea

Might as well remove # of charges on items too

have you ever played resident evil? you start the game with leon, with a pistol and u have to find bullets and reserve them, why not just remove that ? unlimited bullets for leon ?
the experience wouldnt be the same


or like world of war craft makes u run around or on a mount early game, why not just let u teleport from the start?

a lot of minor things we hate actually help build the great experience we love, they are just disguesd and we never appreciate them,
stamina makes u feel powerful as u progess and u rely on it less
arrow makes u feel powerful as u need less arrows to kill a monster , 500 make it last this long, and now 500 make it last this long, there is a hidden sense of purpose and experience that comes with it
i dont know how to explain it,

but the bottom line is , all those tiny little Details is what made diablo 2 great


This post was edited by PeppaPig on Mar 11 2026 11:32am
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I get what u mean, but d2 would not be a great game if every little thing like these are removed

Stamina, arrows, repairs, other QoL stuff

The reason diablo 2 is so great is because of these things, just like everything in life
If you are always off, you dont appreciate a day off.
But if you have to work, u appreciate a day off alot more. Every design has their place and purpose in the game. I am actually not a fan of the new gem slots and rune slots. I prefer stacking them the old way. Its better for the market too

Most of the stuff people complain , they actuallt make the game more realistic,

Think of it this way, how about we remove all ammos from all shooting games? Just unlimited bullets and grenades and launchers all day?

How about we remove mana pots and just be unlimited mana? Its basically the same idea

Might as well remove # of charges on items too

have you ever played resident evil? you start the game with leon, with a pistol and u have to find bullets and reserve them, why not just remove him that ? unlimited bullets for leon ?
the experience wouldnt be the same


A lot of mechanics/RW/items suppress a lot of these things you mention tho, like stamina or mana pots (ie Teleport thru Eni or Insight for mana pots).
I agree with you that all these little things make life and the game what it is and why whe like it, but in the bowazon case, it is just another friction added to the build being played, and another incentive to only play Sorc/Pala/Warlock.
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A lot of mechanics/RW/items suppress a lot of these things you mention tho, like stamina or mana pots (ie Teleport thru Eni or Insight for mana pots).
I agree with you that all these little things make life and the game what it is and why whe like it, but in the bowazon case, it is just another friction added to the build being played, and another incentive to only play Sorc/Pala/Warlock.


i dont think is issue is the arrow, its the amazon class, she is too weak, nerfed too much
back then when guided arrow pwned everything, 500 was too much

now 500 cant even clear a cow lvl, now it becomes a problem imo


think of it this way
in a example of leon,
the gun is amazon and bullet is arrow

the reason u want to use the launcher is cuz the pistol is too weak, not cuz the pistol only has 10 shots, but we choose to use the launcher with 3 shot,( but the launcher has less shot, but we dont complain)
if the gun (amazon) in this case is powerful as the launcher, we wouldnt want to use the launcher with 3 shots.

so the issue imo is the gun(amazon), not the number of shots, as in the 500 arrow was not really the issue.

my opinion :)


ps. also a lot of random or seem useless items in the game actually serve a butterfly effect purpose, if we remove a lot of the items , drops rate math would be very different, that would affect a lot more than we think,
having a limited amount makes us think and make decisions, if not, the game would feel like a mobile pay to win game with just finger holding on the screen
also can you imagine 20 years ago, some 1 in pvp just spaming guided arrow for hours? without needing to go town?
and for example in places like arcane sanct, amazon can just mindlessly shoot with out penalty and unlimited arrows, no need to spend gold, where other class have to repair, regen, mana pot, hp pot etc etc,

This post was edited by PeppaPig on Mar 11 2026 11:54am
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Mar 11 2026 11:57am
I'd make arrows n bolts still a normal item (no unique or whatever) but add 3 different automods to them.

+50-100% ed vs animals
+50-100% ed vs undeads
+50-100% ed vs demons

This would help pvm bowazon a bit without affecting pvp.
You could simply not care about this small buff and use a rand one. Or you could swap between them when you know you'll farm vs mostly 1 type of mobs (like cows, or tombs, etc).
Really not a huge buff, but some flavour, and it could considerably buff the early game of a bowzon.

Maybe also add a small indicator over all corpses that were killed by arrows/bolts and give back 1 ammo when you walk over it. Just a minor buff to slow down how fast they deplete.

Just some random thoughts, but yeah I guess most people would just prefer to get rid of ammos


i think thats just too much,

imo, the best way to target this issue, which i dont think is an issue, is to make it auto refill when u walk under it, when count is under 100 arrows

This post was edited by PeppaPig on Mar 11 2026 11:58am
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Mar 11 2026 12:12pm
i think thats just too much,

imo, the best way to target this issue, which i dont think is an issue, is to make it auto refill when u walk under it, when count is under 100 arrows


this good idea tbh
doesnt change anything other than the fact you save a trip from a vendor every run you make.
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this good idea tbh
doesnt change anything other than the fact you save a trip from a vendor every run you make.


i have a high end amazon on hardcore, i actually almost never have to go vendor for arrows, i am a multi arrow zon,
i just click arrow when ever i see them, and sometimes i leave 2 in the cube
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