In terms of of dmg. But cleave is already slow and u get max ias with grief ( you could go dreadfang…or ebotd warpike for range… but slower then grief)

This post was edited by Daffodil on Feb 28 2026 07:46am

Hmm what about something in a mancatcher or giant thresher ? -20 or -10 wsm ain’t half bad

Just throwing some stuff out there, haven’t tested cleave and I’m not sure if the +4 range adder would even do anything



I guess botd gt wouldn’t even deal that much more dmg than grief pb tho, grief pb op I guess

This post was edited by Stefbef on Feb 28 2026 07:55am

I could see obedience mancatcher work. + the enchant proc is a nice add

I just checked, I’m afraid grief pb does more dps than that

What about double shael/zod eth tomb reaver ( thinking outloud… at girlfriend right now, be my guinnea pig)

That’s what I thought about too, but i think tombreaver wsm is too ass

But I guess having a demon with fanatism is a huge boost here

Haven’t rly theorycrafted this one much yet, but there should be some options to even use slower weapons

Does DS apply?

This post was edited by Stefbef on Feb 28 2026 08:18am

Yes DS/cb apply. Tombreaver wsm is 10. With double shael it puts u at grief wsm ( if im not mistaking… not and expert on the matter)

Nono that’s attack speed, wsm is different

It’s the base modifier of the weapons, but fanatism does boost this

I guess you could even use like a death decapitator if that works and have a fanatism demon to boost his speed

Maybe a 20 fcr 120-45 helm to get some ias and a highlord will get you a long way

Maybe its better to use 75 fcr so you can use LoH gloves etc?

Tried the 75fcr build with death decap - 30ias helm, highlord( 20ias) and loh ( 20ias). Feels cluncky. But lot of dmg

This post was edited by Daffodil on Feb 28 2026 08:31am

Fun but no reason to tele stomp mobs when you can do more damage from range