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Mar 14 2024 10:24am
Quote (dannywanghere @ 14 Mar 2024 11:19)
Don't use griffon. HoZ gives you slightly more DPS (less than 1k) than spirit at the cost of wearing an FCR ring and needing more expensive helm/amulet to hit 125 fcr. Probably still go spirit if you aren't already set on HoZ

BK rings instead of sojs is fine if you're running insight merc but remember the +life doesn't work with BO and is underwhelming.

For boots IMO most people should be using aldurs especially if you're using spirit. WT if you're stacking MF, WW if you're maxing block



Why HoZ make more DPS? The +skills or the +ar?
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Quote (Xshoot @ Mar 14 2024 01:23pm)
I would like 125fcr for tele but I know 86fcr is the best for casting delay on Foh and Hammer.

Why HoZ make more DPS? +skills or the +ar?


+ 2 pcomb skills
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Mar 14 2024 10:25am
Quote (Xshoot @ Mar 14 2024 12:11pm)
For my Merc I was thinking about: Prayer (Insight/Cure/CoH).

For my gear, I was thinking about: Hoto, Magefist, Enigma, Arach,
(but not sure about the rest. What should I get? Shako vs. Griffon? Hoz vs. Targe Spirit? 2x Bk ring? WT vs. Trek?).

For skills, I was thinking about: 20Foh, 20Holy bolt. 1Holy Shield. 20Hammer.
(but not sure about the rest. What should I max first between Concentration, Blessed Aim and Vigor.)


If you think about griffon, you probably believe a pvm foh is supposed to do light dmg?
This is wrong.
Pvm foh does not put any points in holyshock.
Its all about the holy bolts dmg.
And even more important to avoid doing this mistake if you go hybrid, cuz you need those extra skill points
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Mar 14 2024 10:28am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ 14 Mar 2024 11:25)
If you think about griffon, you probably believe a pvm foh is supposed to do light dmg?
This is wrong.
Pvm foh does not put any points in holyshock.
Its all about the holy bolts dmg.
And even more important to avoid doing this mistake if you go hybrid, cuz you need those extra skill points


I know that the light dmg for Foh/Hammer Build is not what you should focus on. I said Griffon cauz it have fcr instead of Shako. You lose 1 skill but maybe it could help reach those bp if I use Hoz instead of Spirit.

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Quote (Xshoot @ Mar 14 2024 12:28pm)
I know that the light dmg for Foh/Hammer Build is not what to do. I said Griffon cauz it have fcr instead of +2skill Shako. Maybe it would help to get those bp if I use Hoz instead of Spirit.


The best option is +3pcomb/20fcr circ
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Mar 14 2024 10:41am
UPDATE:

Merc:
Prayer (Insight/Cure/CoH).

Gear:
Hoto, Magefist, Enigma, Arach, 3pcomb 20fcr Circlet, HoZ, 1xBk5, WarTrav, 10fcr ring (to get 125fcr), 15+fcr Amulet (to get 125fcr) // CTA+Spirit

=Sound good?

Skills:
20Foh, 20Holy bolt. 1Holy Shield. 20Hammer.

=Not sure about the rest. What should I max first between Concentration, Blessed Aim and Vigor?

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Quote (Xshoot @ Mar 14 2024 09:41am)
UPDATE:

Merc:
Prayer (Insight/Cure/CoH).

Gear:
Hoto, Magefist, Enigma, Arach, 3pcomb 20fcr Circlet, HoZ, 1xBk5, WarTrav, 10fcr ring (to get 125fcr), 15+fcr Amulet (to get 125fcr) // CTA+Spirit

=Sound good?

Skills:
20Foh, 20Holy bolt. 1Holy Shield. 20Hammer.

=Not sure about the rest. What should I max first between Concentration, Blessed Aim and Vigor?


Don't use a 3/20 circlet, 2/20/mods is better and same DPS. I wouldn't recommend the HoZ build tbh but it will still work

Max vigor then put points into blessed aim or vice versa (it really doesn't matter, some people think the passive AR matters for some reason). You won't be able to max both at 99. Concentration stays at 1 pt, not enough skill points. You use other paladin's aura in groups
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Quote (dannywanghere @ 14 Mar 2024 12:00)
Don't use a 3/20 circlet, 2/20/mods is better and same DPS. I wouldn't recommend the HoZ build tbh but it will still work

Max vigor then put points into blessed aim or vice versa (it really doesn't matter, some people think the passive AR matters for some reason). You won't be able to max both at 99. Concentration stays at 1 pt, not enough skill points. You use other paladin's aura in groups


ST Spirit over Hoz? If yes, I put Mara + Soj/BK instead of +10fcr ring and +15-20fcr Amulet? And I also you Aldur for fireres?
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Mar 14 2024 11:17am
You will actually get higher hammer damage when playing solo if you invest some points into conc like people did for LOD pvp mage paladin hammer optimization. It depends on lvl/gear but usually its like 5-6 hard points into conc then the rest into hammer synergies for a well geared char. You can confirm on d2planner where the sweet spot is in terms of optimization for your build.
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Mar 14 2024 11:18am
Quote (dannywanghere @ Mar 14 2024 01:00pm)
Don't use a 3/20 circlet, 2/20/mods is better and same DPS. I wouldn't recommend the HoZ build tbh but it will still work

Max vigor then put points into blessed aim or vice versa (it really doesn't matter, some people think the passive AR matters for some reason). You won't be able to max both at 99. Concentration stays at 1 pt, not enough skill points. You use other paladin's aura in groups


Foh benefits only from pcomb
Hammer benefits more from 3pcom than 2skill in almost all setups

So 3/20/2os is better and much cheaper than an expansive rare circ.
This buils has no problem of survability… so you would only spend much more fgs for a helm that just slows you down in the end

Edit:

Else, the highest possible dmg you can get is by maxing both hammer synergies, and getting conc from a pride merc.
You use redeption instead

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 14 2024 11:22am
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