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I turned last ladder’s Hammerdin into a pure Smiter on non-ladder, and he smashes Uber Trist bosses, Super Ancients, etc., beautifully. He’s a real pain in the ass, though, when it comes to slowly shield whacking his way through Lilith’s maze.

My question is, would my Summon Necro, Javazon, crossbow enchantress, spinny Grief Barb, or bowazon be effective in clearing those areas,
and their bosses to get organs? The one time my Fist/Hammer Pally tried, he cleared two areas, but got squashed by Duriel.

So, any point using the others, or do I just put a teleport amulet on my Smiter to skip through some of Lilith’s bullshit?
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Echolock annihilates everything
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He’s a real pain in the ass, though, when it comes to slowly shield whacking his way through Lilith’s maze


use teleport and kill the uber only :banana:
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I turned last ladder’s Hammerdin into a pure Smiter on non-ladder, and he smashes Uber Trist bosses, Super Ancients, etc., beautifully. He’s a real pain in the ass, though, when it comes to slowly shield whacking his way through Lilith’s maze.

My question is, would my Summon Necro, Javazon, crossbow enchantress, spinny Grief Barb, or bowazon be effective in clearing those areas,
and their bosses to get organs? The one time my Fist/Hammer Pally tried, he cleared two areas, but got squashed by Duriel.

So, any point using the others, or do I just put a teleport amulet on my Smiter to skip through some of Lilith’s bullshit?


if you get open wounds, a tanky merc and aren’t bad I don’t see why not, maybe not the necromancer though.
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Mar 26 2026 02:27pm
you're supposed to put on enigma for lilith and izzy as a smiter. or a tp staff/tele charges item.
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you're supposed to put on enigma for lilith and izzy as a smiter. or a tp staff/tele charges item.


Okay, I can do that, thanks.
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if you get open wounds, a tanky merc and aren’t bad I don’t see why not, maybe not the necromancer though.


Necro’s horde decimates DClone, but it sounds like teleport charges on the Smiter are the way to go.
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Mar 26 2026 02:42pm
tele charge ammy is my favorite.

you can easily get away with giving up the amulet slot on your smiter, and dont have to wep swap/be more vulnerable during tele

also you dont even need to spam teleport when doing matron's den. Just throw on vigor and run around the map until you run into a pack of mobs you cant walk around. then use teleport to get past. Saves a ton of charges

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Necro’s horde decimates DClone, but it sounds like teleport charges on the Smiter are the way to go.


Oh cool I didn’t realize they did enough damage, has been an actual decade since I’ve played one
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tele charge ammy is my favorite.

you can easily get away with giving up the amulet slot on your smiter, and dont have to wep swap/be more vulnerable during tele

also you dont even need to spam teleport when doing matron's den. Just throw on vigor and run around the map until you run into a pack of mobs you cant walk around. then use teleport to get past. Saves a ton of charges


if you are playing with life tap wand on swap, either eni, circlet or ammy are better than tp staff indeed. also true about survivability that tp staff aint the best. but it's the most straight forward and easiest to vendor/get.
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