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Anyone already tried ars diabolos vs phoenix? I am more keen to phoenix so far. Your thoughts?
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Mar 7 2026 12:10pm
phoenix win, -28% fire is godly unless you want to consume 2 demon before every run.
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Mar 7 2026 12:19pm
yeah, massive minus res, FCR if you have obsession and some rings amulet is ok, redemption constantly topping and very cool effect, max resists
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Mar 7 2026 12:24pm
Where do fire locks without phoenix get their mana? It seems a very mana hungry build.
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Mar 7 2026 12:26pm
Where do fire locks without phoenix get their mana? It seems a very mana hungry build.


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Mar 7 2026 12:31pm
Where do fire locks without phoenix get their mana? It seems a very mana hungry build.


bo barb on second client and insight on merc, but still phoenix should just let you forget any mana or hp
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Mar 7 2026 12:41pm
arse >

Code
7* sks + 30% dmg

vs

-23 efr


on a char that already has between -45 and -50 efr from core gear

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Mar 7 2026 12:52pm
A problem with ars diabolos is that flame wave is generally better than apocalypse but you're getting a +2/+7 shield for it that emphasizes your worse of the two skills, but because of that base +25% its often bigger than you could get on a good magic or rare tome anyway. If you could get a +5/5 book with 2x facets it still might not be better because its 2/7 skills and +30/-5 fire, versus +5/5 skills and +10/-10 fire, and the rare would be insanely hard to obtain.
So ars diabolos is still the best option, just because there aren't other better ones. And its going to be better than a +20/-20 shield, which is better than a phoenix.

another reason why there's a huge gear overlap between blood boil & fire warlocks. Mang song + enigma + (2/20/2 circlet or hellwardens cheaper) + 2/15 ammy + arachs + magefist + 2x opalvein + (rare boots or wraithstep)
is identical in both builds, only differences being ars baalos vs ars diabolos and demon skillers vs chaos skillers. And you can get away with a +2 demon/fcr crafted ammy for blood boil, but on a fire build you really want +2 warlock so you get both trees.
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hex siphon


Wtf, it works with fire magic?
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on p8 tz farm and bosses -28 fire res is bigger deal than few K damage :ph34r:

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