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Hi guys if i remember correctly there used to be some weird interaction between deadly strike and critical strike ie. they wouldn't stack? Is that the case still or nah?
Asking coz im looking to try highlord for echoing warlock that is using insight :P
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Mar 4 2026 07:30am
They all roll separately (deadly, critical from zon skill, mastery from warlock skill)

So if you have 30% of one, 50% of another the math is pretty straight forward:

You'd have a 30% chance to double damage first, then of the remainder times (70% of the time you WON'T double your damage), 50% of the that 70% is 35%. Add the 30 and 35 and you get an effective crit chance of 65%.

This is part of the reason you'll see people trying to stack all one TYPE like deadly on gear instead of different types. If your crit chance is 90% already, a 30% mastery gives you about 3% more chance - effectively being terrible :(
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They all roll separately (deadly, critical from zon skill, mastery from warlock skill)

So if you have 30% of one, 50% of another the math is pretty straight forward:

You'd have a 30% chance to double damage first, then of the remainder times (70% of the time you WON'T double your damage), 50% of the that 70% is 35%. Add the 30 and 35 and you get an effective crit chance of 65%.

This is part of the reason you'll see people trying to stack all one TYPE like deadly on gear instead of different types. If your crit chance is 90% already, a 30% mastery gives you about 3% more chance - effectively being terrible :(


Thanks for the reply, that does ring a bell now that you mention it :P
Been a while since ive been in D2 mechanics haha, appreciate the time you took to sort me out! Cheers bud :hail:

e: Btw 1 more question while i have u here already :P
If insight gives +3 to critical strike for example. Does it scale with all skills from gear?

This post was edited by BabyRosh on Mar 4 2026 07:35am
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Mar 4 2026 07:37am
critical strike and deadly strike
CS + (DS/100)*(100-CS)
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Thanks for the reply, that does ring a bell now that you mention it :P
Been a while since ive been in D2 mechanics haha, appreciate the time you took to sort me out! Cheers bud :hail:

e: Btw 1 more question while i have u here already :P
If insight gives +3 to critical strike for example. Does it scale with all skills from gear?


It does!

I use this on llding with sojs and stuff
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Mar 4 2026 07:39am
It does!

I use this on llding with sojs and stuff


Sweeeet thanks <3

critical strike and deadly strike
CS + (DS/100)*(100-CS)


Thanks but ill try my best to never try and plug in the numbers haha
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Mar 4 2026 07:44am
critical strike and deadly strike
CS + (DS/100)*(100-CS)


2 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)/100
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - zonCS)/100

3 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)*(100 - zonCS)/10000

Fun note:
Non-player units like a Barbarian mercenary, Valkyrie and Iron Golem have 5% chance of applying critical damage, doubling all attack damage types. This is calculated independently of other sources, so there is a chance of applying quadruple physical damage.
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Mar 4 2026 07:49am
It does!

I use this on llding with sojs and stuff


I am pretty sure it does not (could be wrong ofc, probably am*lol).

The Critical Strike roll on Inisght is not the Amazon Skill, its its own thing and doesnt belong to any Skill Tree. Thats why I dont see + To All Skills doing anything with it.
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2 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)/100
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - zonCS)/100

3 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)*(100 - zonCS)/10000

Fun note:
Non-player units like a Barbarian mercenary, Valkyrie and Iron Golem have 5% chance of applying critical damage, doubling all attack damage types. This is calculated independently of other sources, so there is a chance of applying quadruple physical damage.


Oh awesome info man
Didn't know that. Will update my database :thumbsup:
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I am pretty sure it does not (could be wrong ofc, probably am*lol).

The Critical Strike roll on Inisght is not the Amazon Skill, its its own thing and doesnt belong to any Skill Tree. Thats why I dont see + To All Skills doing anything with it.


You sure bout this bro? Critical Strike is Amazon skill, just like Battle Command/Orders is Barbarian skill which (if im not mistaken) does scale with all skills?

2 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)/100
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - zonCS)/100

3 sources:
100 - (100 - CS)*(100 - DS)*(100 - zonCS)/10000

Fun note:
Non-player units like a Barbarian mercenary, Valkyrie and Iron Golem have 5% chance of applying critical damage, doubling all attack damage types. This is calculated independently of other sources, so there is a chance of applying quadruple physical damage.


I dont even know you but I like you already, even though these numbers confuse the shit out of me :D

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