This poll was compromised and we will not be moving forward with it.

This post was edited by Koston on Aug 16 2022 10:44am

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This song goes out to Hippo for when he gives me his fools for free.

This post was edited by phyah on Aug 15 2022 07:23pm

I think the referee rule needs clarification. Ever since patch 1.10 we’ve used Howl barbs or Smite or Shockwave to freeze oak sage in place by request to keep it from interfering in the duel. Not every duel used them, but it was always preferred by both parties if someone was available to howl or shockwave.

If we go forward without it even “for a season” what is written is inadequate as it doesn’t really punish intentional targeting of oak sage in the duel. We need to flesh out what manipulating the oak sage looks like and if it means auto loss if someone does it.

So before I vote, I propose a quick amendment to this section:

“Shockwave Refs for oak sage will not be utilized. Part of being a fury druid means there will always be some aspect of RNG with Oak Sages. We can try this out for one season and see how it goes. There will be no purposeful manipulation of Oak Sages to try and get them to fly into the middle of the duel so that an opponent can kill it on purpose.

Purposeful manipulation of Oak Sages includes starting the duel anywhere except a corner section of the Inner Cloister border, and/or forcing a Druid to walk more than 2 tile segments* to reach their opponent. Violations are considered intentional manipulation of Oak Sage and force a restart.”

This is two tile segments (you can see the lines clearly on the floor):



This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 15 2022 07:32pm

I voted, do your duty brother

agreed. only bans should be bm bans. all classes allowed is best for everyone.

I support this amendment, I agree this has always been used. Currently match up is balanced with a Ref, we see close duels that go either way in Fury vs Zeal using Ref.

There are no wins here. There are going to be two tap only ladders and no oak sage referees. Stevo really did win everything he wanted and we got nothing.

If you care about good mannered melee, vote no. If you want to unite the melee community under the banner of bad manners, vote yes.

I wanted to vote yes, but those two rules are just bad. Sorry. Tier and Koston really do care about melee, but they gave in to everything except the Discord, which is fun but not relevant to in game battles.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Aug 15 2022 10:39pm