I'm interested in PvP'ing. However, I am familiar with how the community used to behave back in the OG days.

For example, if someone gets a namelock on you, the only way to break it is by Teleporting a few screens away so that it forcibly drops. Well, whenever you do this, people consider the duel over, and call you a pussy, or whatever. Same goes for basically any number of other strategies and counter-strategies. If you ever dared do anything that wasn't try to Telestomp the other player faster than they Telestomp you, you were typically ridiculed for it. Like, god forbid a Chargeadin reaches you and one-shots your Bone Armor, and you Teleport around a corner to recast it. God forbid a FoH Pally kills your Golem and you get a screen's distance and recast it.

God forbid you do basically anything that... isn't try to Telestomp the other player faster than they Telestomp you. (Basically, the caster version of two Barbs exiting town and WW'ing through each other until one of them collapses at the end of the cast.)

In other words... Do people respect strategy, or do they keep trying to have dueling be nothing more than glorified gear comparisons?

This post was edited by 4thBro on Mar 2 2022 04:08am

You can tele around and recast. Ppl only have a problem when you play rly defensiv and drag the duel out for like 15 till you rep to full like those guys on na.

Well. I do play defensively as my default, since that is objectively stronger if people come into your zone. But if I'm against another defensive player, I will figure out how to break into offensive play, if I can figure out what my window of opportunity is, what their hole is, their weakness, etc.

Its a difference if you just stay offscreen and spam projectiles till you win or if you tele 1screen away to recast rebo etc. I could make a 200fcr sorc and tele around the map. This aint the point of pvp m8.

Sure, but a 200 FCR Sorc spamming Fireballs isn't very effective compared to a Necro spamming Spirits, for example. The Fireballs aren't going to hit anyone, but the Spirits are all potential threats, especially with how its mechanic works (like with Guided Arrow). Necros have a lot of options and ways of attacking, but some of the most effective ones are defensive playstyles.

I thought the point of PvP was strategizing. Why wouldn't I start with the most effective start? Leave a minefield of Spirits. If that's not working, I can move to the next step. But if the enemy fails to be able to get past that, why should I feel guilted into not playing that strat against them?

Meh. Well, whatever, I guess.




I'm certainly not going to play the offscreen strat against a Zon, for example. They are superior at it than a Necro. They have a better "Spirit" and a better "Teeth". I have to figure out how I'm going to get in close, in that matchup. And that actually is one of a Bone Necro's worst matchups, since they aren't an offensive class. (I'd say the worst matchup is an ES Sorc.)

There are characters that can play both agressively and defensively. Like hammer or trapassa.
But if you are a necro against an assassin for example I don't see too much opportunity to be the offensive player, thats just how the matchup is.

I never seen anyone complaining about that what you describe. If you are namelocked as a nec vs a foh and you don't go away to lose it then you are just dumb lól.

So I suggest you to join and play some pvp here but keep it mind that d2 was not made for pvp and its balanced and regulated by the community, so its not always fair by definition.
I returned for d2r, I rarely play public games but having lots of fun so far with the events organized here. If you don't like it you can just stop playing anytime.

Yeah, good points, and ultimately good attitude. I can just play, enjoy it, whatever happens happens, eh?

Maybe I'll jump in sometime soon.

Less talk more duels

Go stream. Im bored at work

nah just full of hackers like