Quote (Tabuu @ Jul 24 2020 01:44pm)

yea trading fbs with a 200fcr vita without running away not going to happen.

make one prove me wrong plz



1st - are you planning not hitting an es sorc at all lol ?

2nd - like i said, all those only apply if an es sorc play like vincenzo, and dont care if a match can go on forever, which none of us want, but the current rule set will make us have to if play es.

tweaking up rules a bit can encourage players to play other type of sorcs more competitively as the way they actually wanted.

Quote (iceydicey @ Jul 24 2020 02:57pm)

anyone can play overly defensively in svs at any time. there is a level of good faith that players on the ladder have (since there is no rule against this) that they will avoid playing overly defensively so that it's a fun matchup. i can't think of a single vita sorc player that plays as defensively as an es sorc.

es playstyle is basically so that they can only play defensively, and es has an inherent advantage in defensive play over vita. not sure why this so hard to understand. your entire playstyle revolves around running away and regen-ing so that you can out tank a vita sorc over time.

this is a valid matchup in itself, but 85% res makes it unfair cause it takes literally close to 30 landed fbs against this playstyle to win unless you get a random chain

Quote (Truonk @ Jul 24 2020 04:15pm)

Multiple come back from you is to make one. Why do you think I don't have one?

Quote (iceydicey @ Jul 24 2020 03:57pm)

anyone can play overly defensively in svs at any time. there is a level of good faith that players on the ladder have (since there is no rule against this) that they will avoid playing overly defensively so that it's a fun matchup. i can't think of a single vita sorc player that plays as defensively as an es sorc.


es playstyle is basically so that they can only play defensively, and es has an inherent advantage in defensive play over vita. not sure why this so hard to understand. your entire playstyle revolves around running away and regen-ing so that you can out tank a vita sorc over time.

this is a valid matchup in itself, but 85% res makes it unfair cause it takes literally close to 30 landed fbs against this playstyle to win unless you get a random chain

Quote (Tabuu @ Jul 24 2020 04:35pm)

cuz people simply dont know how hard it is to duel on other type of sorcs compare to 200fb and still get beat all day.



lol 30 fbs landed, idk how but sure

Either way, it is obviously with all these replies, yall are a fan of 200fb and only speak as a 200fb perspective. who cares about other type of sorc right?


ill leave it here, hopefully one day we could tweak things up a bit, especially for cold sorc.

Quote (iceydicey @ Jul 24 2020 04:47pm)

i tested it in post #981 since you didn't test it after i kept asking you to. lmk if 110 hp damage from 1 fb with 85% res+79% es sounds wrong

Quote (Tabuu @ Jul 24 2020 03:59pm)

this is exactly why i tell people to make one and at least try to climb ladder with it.

either way forget about es sorc, since im the only using it, focus more on balance cold sorc.

Quote (Truonk @ Jul 24 2020 05:10pm)

https://i.imgur.com/553uA48.png

Let me know if you could build one closer to these specs. thanks

Quote (Tabuu @ Jul 24 2020 04:33pm)

how you do on ladder is the question ?

Quote (Truonk @ Jul 24 2020 05:10pm)

https://i.imgur.com/553uA48.png

Let me know if you could build one closer to these specs. thanks