im pretty sure its the chilling armor that procs on fort is why its considered bm..and we all use fort stll =) when not ZvZing

on all other realms what they usually do just like GM bvb or zeal or duels they either rejoin or get killed to take away the ctc chilling but during duel is game on.

I didn't know fort was aloud for zva either so that is good news. love some more input on this ty for the reply

This post was edited by Skeptical on Oct 4 2013 07:57pm

Fortitude is banned in ZvZ because of the Chilling Armor Proc
Chilling armor randomly negates weapon based projectiles for absolutely no reason
This elongates a ZvZ match in unnecessary ways
A ZvZ ft5 match (between two opponents who really want to win) can easily take upwards to an hour or more to complete
When you allow them to use Fortitude, double that time
Simply put, it's easier on everyone's schedule and the practicality of the match, to have Fortitude banned in a ZvZ specific ladder
If you were to join a ZvZ ladder for any significant amount of time, you'd quickly agree with the ruling as has everyone else before you

Fortitude is allowed in ZvA because other classes are not firing physical projectiles at you
In this case, Fortitude is doing nothing to hinder or make a match redundant

Also, the contestants in BowaPK have been changing/tweaking this ruleset for years now
We often put up debate in the thread about current ruleset
We go in-game and run tests and take votes to see if anything needs to be changed
This ruleset is not something that needs to be updated
It is something that is constantly being updated

amapk/1

Chilling has a 50% chance to sorb a missle.
When one zon has it and the other does not. the ca'ed zon can force charge and the other zon has no choice but to stand and jab because javs trigger the ice bolt causing more dodges.

tldr when one zon has chilling and the other one doesn't the match gets very lopsided. if they both have it there is another layer of rng to add on making duels much longer.

On west and euro it's both aloud and I've never had a match go longer then 2-3 minutes. Also chillin is gfg for long range but up close it can throw you into block mode

It has positives and negatives. Also chilling should be reset vs each duel. I'm not against not using it. Just saying what the other realms have been up to and what seems to work.

Imo not using it limits the z vs z because you have such a huge hit in life def and damage.

Anyway Ty for all the comments

Much love.

If you were playing with these players:

Warden / ccsutton / *sutton [Defended Rank #1 x40]
Oats / Guru-PvP / *Guru. [Defended Rank #1 x10]
Crits / Arelax / *sscali [Defended Rank #1 x9]
Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 [Defended Rank #1 x8]


At the end of an hour long match (if you lived that long)
You would agree on the mutual decision, to ban redundant elongating effects such as Chilling/Slow%

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Oct 5 2013 03:52pm

damn he hasnt been on for a day

Go figure huh. Lol

yeah had to work today and yesterday, will also be working tomorrow (10/6/13) until the evening.
lmk what works for you, my schedule for the most part is now pretty open