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May 7 2012 01:55am
oh jesus the rules are perfect the way they are and 10x 20/11's should NOT be allowed....
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May 7 2012 02:26am
Ill make a rap for anyone O.o

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May 7 2012 02:30am
god damn it fuzzy lol
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May 7 2012 02:31am
Quote (GoHuskers @ May 7 2012 03:30am)
god damn it fuzzy lol


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your really rapping over /f l too
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your really rapping over /f l too
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lolol
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May 7 2012 06:17am
Quote (Gemmd @ May 7 2012 12:38am)
imo we have a vote.


I will set up a poll today :)

Quote (Garciaparra @ May 7 2012 12:41am)
go ahead.

reguardless im going to continue to use 20-11's since my build it's a must.

as far as es rule goes.  It's either gonna be no max res at all or we can go this route, IF your using Bmanas you cant use any + max or sorb / if using 20/17's you may use 10% ect.


We can make a addin that states you may use some 20/11s on a tals sorc lol. But again that will be voted on after.


For now we are using the old rules that have worked and been in place for like 2+ years.. untill a vote changes that.
Enough posting here on this topic, save it for the poll :)
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May 7 2012 06:40am
Quote (Gemmd @ 7 May 2012 07:22)
this. imo if 20/11s r aloud, hotspurs should b  aloud for cold vs fire. its been tested b4 and it is more even imo.


lol i tested this a cold sorc needs hspurs and 2x dwards to get delt the same damage as a 399cr+raven fire sorc lmfao imo thats one of the worst rules on svs ladder.. this whole v cold racist shit o.O
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lol  i tested this a cold sorc needs hspurs and 2x dwards to get delt the same damage as a 399cr+raven fire sorc lmfao imo thats one of the worst rules on svs ladder.. this whole v cold racist shit o.O


the rules are fine tbh its all based on how you play...
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Quote (MajSlayer @ May 7 2012 01:52am)
hard to enforce and make calls.

also the mitigation rule is dumb. es sorcs are banned from having max res/sorb on other ladders other than svs.

i believe skibum held #1 as 105 esfb for a bit without max res or sorb?


I've done everything actually. I've been #1 with no sorb using 20/17's, no sorb with bmanas, and the last time I climbed and afk'd at like #5 I used bmanas with infernos in one of my fire setups. All were still difficult to play, but that's really probably just related to play style. A l8z bmana spammasorc would probably be pretty difficult as they do tank like 15 fbs if they don't lose mana. but they're still screwed once they lose mana because they're sitting ducks and can't tele/can't fb and will be dead / fhr'd by the time they get the mana to do anything... Which is as simple as getting cl'd by a 200fcr since they can pick you out mid tele if the frames are right... I still felt at a disadvantage on all my es sorcs.

being able to raven with es shouldn't be allowed though

3k/3k is doable with no bmanas. but it's a fail build. He'll find out once he fights someone who can namelock. that mana will be gone in 2 fbs.

also a 11k ib sorc should do 505dmg to a 400res/raven sorc. which is comparable to a 200fcr dealing 510-560 dmg to 85 res, when you take into account they can also blizz. maybe just have the max res @ 400 and force ppl to use raven to tank more.
/e nvm my 105 iber has -260 cr with 11k ib (3.5k life 85 fr).. so that would be.. 11000*.17*(100-(400-360))/100*.6= 673 dmg per ib..
or I could swap out 3x jah's for facets and hit 12.1-12.5k ib with -275 cr for 3.3k life and deal a crazy 765 dmg per hit to a raven build

This post was edited by Skibum on May 7 2012 07:16am
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