Cold sorces seem pretty strong with the Anya fix and that max pen setup, Adapt was hitting me hard af other day haha

cuz his gears is very high end, which are very limited and im pretty sure hes still struggling climbing ladder with it.

Well I could be wrong but I think the max pen is pretty budget?

he has the best possible gear you can get for a cold sorc which is only 70-90 more than my setup i dont mind current rules i also dont expect to be able to compete with top tier fire sorcs just here for svs if i wanted to aim for #1 id convert to fire so id have a chance but anyone who joins this with a cold sorc will be fighting an uphill battle good for learning cold sorcs in svs better to make cold sorcs on ladder not enough items capable of allowing fire sorcs to stack 450 without giving something they still arnt overpowered on ladder either under those conditions

also from what i see is that, everytime a 200fcr fb sorc got caught or when their hp is low, they can just run spam for life and no one can catch them, especially non 200fcr player.

to play devil's advocate, how many fbs can 85% res+es tank if mana never reaches 0 due to regen+potting? 15-20?

cold sorc is also very hard to balance, with current rule set the optimal build does over 800 dmg per ice blast, which can easily 4 shot someone with 450% cold res. fb does about 500 dmg to 85% res. very item dependent ofc but any rule change will give optimal cold sorc an even bigger advantage



adapt is not on the ladder. if he joined he would wreck lol

This post was edited by iceydicey on Jul 22 2020 09:31am

budget for cold is 6k (not counting inventory) more if you want to do max damage and have 3k life thats not using sop either also the items they use are rare and arnt even sold on the market very often.

To debate with this whole cold sorcs have it bad. Back in 2012ish. I climbed this ladder with a orb sorc.... i didn't play overly defensive. The rules were the same. 399+ raven, or 450 max res. I got to #3. It was great. Blizzard has it tough because of the possibility of blizz not hitting. But a well built blizz sorc can wreck fairly easily. And if you expect to climb this ladder with any budget sorc. Light, fire, or cold. You better be one damn good player. Proper gear makes too much of a difference in a lot of cases. The difference between 3200 and 3400 life is huge in fb vs fb. Its only 1 fb tank difference, but that 1 fb easily makes or breaks a fight.

ofc only if you play overly defensive, which is not allow.


maybe you can try to make an es sorc with the new set of rules and try to climb ladder with it maybe you will understand more.

also cold sorc too if you think adaptation will rekt, maybe he will cuz his gears are one of a kind.



This post was edited by Tabuu on Jul 22 2020 09:44am

If a ES sorc can tank 15-20 fbs playing defensively, thats just unreasonable. Really is. Overly defensive play is really just silly across all sorc’s. And being overly defensive doesnt help any sorc like it does a ES sorc apparently. 100% shouldn't be allowed. Even being allowed to mana pot is pretty interesting. Its almost like using health pots in a way.



Ill have over 60k fg in my vita fber to reach somewhere close to 3.6k health. Its a expensive ladder. If you wanna play a non gear based ladder, maybe make your own tals ladder? Id join it 😂

This post was edited by Werld on Jul 22 2020 09:51am