ive tested doomz and 20/-20
doesnt do as much as pfathom and 20/-20
took 80 life with doom/ 20/-20
150 with fathom/ 20/-20

imo dmg will pierce more than doom.

No video yet, but i'm done arguing about this, i've been getting flamed by people that I have tons of respect for, and I dont appreciate it.

The only point I was trying to make was, when I 15+ blizz a guy, and he's still not down, something needs to change.

For the most part, there's only a couple guys on the ladder that wear that much stack vs. cold.

I've learned to change up my play style vs these guys so that I still have a chance, I just can't iceblast them or they heal

I never meant for it to turn into this huge ordeal at all.

My biggest gripe is blackoak, and I think everyone agree's that it has to go.

As far as the cold stack goes, i'm really not lobbying all that hard for a cap on it, the guys will skill don't need a 450-500 stack to beat me, and they know it.

Have a lot of respect for you guys once again, and i'm sorry for causing this giant scandal, lmfao.

I agree that there should be some sort of cap, but I think it won't be fair if a flat number is used. The ES% of the sorc should play a factor in how much res they are allowed. The higher the ES%, the lower the amount of allowed stack IMO.

I personally think the overall GM rules should be altered to prevent the abuse of cold stack. Specifically, there should be a better limit on the amount of stack allowed when a raven is in use.

That isn't to say that there aren't any downsides of such a rule. A strict cold res limit will take out some of the art out of building a cold sorc. Right now one must choose how they want to mix damage and -% res, with a rule in place there will be less variation. Others might say that getting cold stack isn't easy and they deserve to tank it, but it obviously makes duels very unfair and I hope cold stackers realize this.

sorry for the flame, and yes i agree with you. 15+ blizz is too much, and yes something has to be done.

we should get this finalized asap, so that positions are not lost due to this glitch.

I wouldn't call it a glitch, and anyone who made a blizzer should have been smart enough to know that stack was a possibility with the current rules. It's not like the rules suddenly changed.

That said, there probably should be some sort of change to the rules. Characters that rely on -% res for damage can be made absolutely pointless with the current rules. A FOH pally faces this same problem. IMO if stack surpasses a certain amount, no absorb/max res/es should be allowed. The tricky part is finding a fair limit. Serious players will just go 1 under the limit and then use sorb/es.

This post was edited by KillersDream on Jan 26 2010 06:32pm

Ty Slaughtah, I never meant to offend anyone or try to give myself any sort of advantage by bringing up this subject, I've just seen more and more threads about it lately and was suggesting that some sort of change should be agreed upon so that us Blizzy's are not so much of a dying breed

with my gear, by chance, i ended up with 414 stacked resists. imo 450 is fine. but when people go and put on un killable amounts, its stupid, why even let cold sorc join if the duel for 15th-10th takes an hour?not even for te whole ft5

i am one of those on ladder and its not that i need it its that it just makes my job a whole lot easier

Stand by for my screenshot



Hit him TWELVE times for less than half life

This post was edited by Half-Naked on Jan 26 2010 07:04pm

i vote no limit cold sorcs are overpowered

i also think you should be allowed to use ravens and gris helm vs them