My criticism is completely valid. I really doubt that he intended to ban 85% res with the combination of waterwalks + vex.

You might want to stfu, since you're the one that is spamming.

exile (1/6 odds of lifetap) and dracs (1/20 odds of life tap)

are two very very different things.

'exile is a part of the build' is a lame way of saying you want to cast life tap

as for dracs its simply about open wounds, i think everyone already knows this

who wants to take wagers on bvc vs v/t with an exile

This post was edited by duffman316 on Dec 31 2009 12:27am

ive already said i agree with what ty- says about that and the rules will be altered.

exile is a part of the build seeing as it boosts defense rating......... it has a chance to cast life tap who care get over it it doesnt cast all the time.

Actually, what I'm pointing out is different. He is suggesting allowing for 5% max res and 20% absorb which allows for more tankage. I'm pointing out that you don't even allow 85% res and 0% sorb if the setup gets its 10% max res from two separate items, which is stupid (and likely unintended) because 10% max is allowed if it comes from a single item.

Also, according to your rules, a paladin could try to claim that 84% res + 20% sorb is GM. I'm guessing that is not what you intended.
edit: perhaps you patched this loophole, but you'll want to make it more clear. You'll want to be sure you don't open up this loophole again if you decide to allow 20% sorb and 80% res.

There are more loopholes like that but I don't want you to cry about spam so let me know if you want to hear more.

This post was edited by KillersDream on Dec 31 2009 01:20am

Give up dude. You're trying way to hard to find 'loopholes' when all you need is common sense.
don't gimme this bullshit about omg its a rule set it needs to be 100% perfect...

Less retard more stfu

If you can point out a legit discrepancy in the rule set where more than one person agrees there's a problem then i'll stop telling you to stfu

if some kid wants to try and say 84 res + 20 absorb is gm then he's an idiot and fucking loses. No here is that new.

I have PM'd you about your 'loopholes'

This post was edited by Ty- on Dec 31 2009 10:58am

Theres this wonderful thing called common sense if they try to use a loop hole we ban them for using 1
if they want to be complete niggers and find holes in rules that have been loved and used for ages then go ahead
were still better than them and our rules are still valid find me a perfect rule set id love you to better yet make one you pvm random
here a idea since youve never chaosed b4 you must have never rushed any chars either my advice

go buy diablo b4 you talk shit on d2jsp
playing since beta is shit every1 whos played classics chaosed thats how you leveled your chars back then stupid pvmer

05 on jsp but 09 on diablo thats to funny

but anyways waterwalks + vex rune should be aloud

since waterwalks is part of some peoples builds (65 life 15 dex )
the 5% max fire resist is just a bonus

exile is 1 peice of tap and thus gm thats been the rule for like 10 thousand years and complaining about it now means nothing shitties
unless you gmod killing a good druid ona smiter without tap is almost impossible

but like i said using a greif / exile on swap ona liberator is diffrent that should be unalowed cuz a hammerdin has the power of hamers and the melee of smite and tap if he needs the hp is fucked up

my freind does that in pubs and downs them eZ like 5000 - 0

oh and killersdream

your guilds name might as well be "+1" now go back to spamming trophy room lord knows you have none

and as to 84 res and 20+ sorb if they try to be nigger shits like that they can get banned (84 is impossible without points into the auras because its a uneven number would have to be 80 and 4 from auras cuz of 20 10 5 rule) but anyway yeh

you kids suck ass
get out

I've already pointed out the "A total of 451 poison is allowed" rule. You agreed with me and said that it should state that it applies to charms only.
I've already pointed out that this rule set doesn't allow 85% res if it comes from two items (waterwalk + vex). Others have agreed with me that this is pointless and likely unintentional.

You want some more? I'll point out the more obvious ones.

• "May use mana pots if es% is under 80%." The rule set says you may use mana potions if you're es% is below 80, but it never says anything about not being able to use mana potions if es% is 80 or higher. In other words, mana pots are always allowed, though I doubt that is what is intended.
  
  
• "Fire golem + dwarf star is allowed (not vs. fire trappers)." Is this rule supposed to mean that dwarf star + fire golem is gm, but hotspurs + fire golem isn't? According to these rules, both would be gm. This rule seems to be placed here as if to prevent hot spurs + fire golem, but it doesn't actually do that. If that isn't the intent, this rule is pointless.
  
  
• "Dual claw assassins can use one wisp/raven/dwarf." Is this supposed to also mean that things like a LoLo circlet are intended to be bm?
  
  
• "2 ravenfrosts are allowed (its a build). but then you are not allowed over 100+ cold stack." Does 100+ cold stack mean 175+ res after hell penalty, or 100+ res after hell penalty?
  
  
• "1 ravenfrost allowed on stacking amazons (250+ cr stacked)." See above.
  
  
• "Tele psn zons are Banned from any team duels." Someone could try to say that a telezon that does anyone poison damage is a "tele psn zon". A definition is needed? What about a hybrid poison bowa?
  
  
• "Using a resistance aura counts as a piece of absorb when it has 2 or more base points." You realize that there is a passive bonus for auras, and you don't have to actively be using them, right?
  
  
• "Resist cold is allowed (1 raven only)." Is this supposed to imply that 2 ravens are allowed in other circumstances? Also, this allows for 20% sorb and 95% res, surely that is not intended?
  
  
• "Resist Fire + Waterwalks are allowed (Cannot use any other sorb)." You don't allow hotspurs, but you allow this which can be worse?

The rule set is also full of redundancy, for example there are many places where it says hot spurs are not allowed even though it is explicitly stated that no more than 85% max res is allowed.




I'm a legend, so you best shut the fuck up. Looks like you agree with me anyway. You clearly don't know who I am.

This post was edited by KillersDream on Dec 31 2009 03:10pm

KillersDream appears to be the only one giving you input here. while you might think that he is attacking you, to the impartial observer (me) it does not appear to be his intent to knock your castle down. why not take a step back see his posts as constructive feedback at assisting you in updating your rules. The simple fact is rules have to be specific or some people will find a loophole. The game is played by alot of smart, overconfident, arrogant and oftentimes childish individuals. Rules in any competition are there for balancing, but they have to be specific and understandable to all.

i'll go back to my own corner of jsp now

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 31 2009 03:30pm

you posted that your rules were guidelines

both me and killersdream are pointing out flaws so they can be corrected in order to provide everyone with a common set of rules that are actually fair, which coincides with the original intent of your post

personally i dont really care if the rules stay flawed because im more intelligent than all of you and im rich as hell and can afford w/e chars i want and can bend every rule to my liking all day and weasel my way to victory in more ways than you could possibly imagine

the point is everyone but me and killersdream wants flawed rules so they can weasel their way to victory

i take pride in the fact that im a better dueler than most people so i would like things to be even so i can showcase my amazing talent

p.s. airwaves, you are sadly mistaken if you think i wont obliterate the shit out of anyone who even attempts to "argue" with me about anything

its one of my passions

and im pretty damn good at chess too

oh also, ty-, if you want to sit here and talk shit without any kind of basis to your arguement whatsoever or even the intellect to work around not having a valid foundation for arguement, you will get intellectually annihilated by myself or killersdream (who wipes his ass with godlier chars than you will ever touch)

have a nice day guys

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