lol all this because I didn't wanna keep doing long duels just to defend on an otherwise dead ladder ~~

and I don't use shadow gcs don't even involve me I would be going on vacation this weekend anyway till tuesday might as well drop

I could of just repped to tank another hammer but who wants drawn out boring as fuck matches where we are just trying to heal enough to keep going?? I don't see that fun or worthit for that matter but to each his own.

Think of it this way if someone didn't have the mass PDR I could of mb killed them when they were low by chasing but instead they get to escape and rep to enough to tank stomping again meanwhile if I'm sitting at 250-500 life that's still one hammer regardless should I tank and l8z till I get to around 2k~ life just for trying to repeat the process all over again? I would call a PDR hdin vs trapsin a "hard" advantage but whatever lol I won before just had shit to do and didn't wanna hold shit up. As for me not rejoining till rules are changed I already plan on changing chars.

This post was edited by StriferZer0 on Feb 27 2015 02:50pm

i know you didnt use shadows, im saying if you decided to, you could have mb dmg again.. removing his pdr build.

For the sake of being thorough:

Max PDR I can get realistically (without sacrificing a ton of shit, which I already am) is 50.

25 base circlet + 2x Sol + P Nature's Peace.

50*6= 300

You can pierce at slvl 46. More than that achievable with Shadow GCs.

I disagree entirely that Hdin with PDR is a hard counter to Sin, that's ridiculous. Good trap doesn't have a hard counter in this game.

Who said it was a hard counter? If you meant me I said it's still the sins advantage just a hard one depending on how much pride goes into it. Meditation is being used from start to finish without mana being into play.

This post was edited by StriferZer0 on Feb 27 2015 03:29pm

You called it a "hard advantage".
I don't think it is.
I dont think trap has a hard disadvantage.

once again...I'll try to make this simple trap's have the advantage but it's a HARD advantage when med/pride/PDR comes into play it just draws things out way too long. Nowhere did I state the sin was at a disadvantage....

also this was from tailschao that said this a while back I'm not saying I can't win I'm saying it's boring as fuck when did this become a pride argument do I need to rejoin and work my way back up just to duel again so I can get my point across?


[1/18/2015 11:22:39 PM] Jolteon (Alex): its like you have a hard advantage
[1/18/2015 11:22:44 PM] Jolteon (Alex): but do 0 dmg and die in 2-3 hits
[1/18/2015 11:22:57 PM] Jolteon (Alex): so your gameplay advantage is totally irrelevant
[1/18/2015 11:23:14 PM] Jolteon (Alex): i remember years ago kam told me he thought that hdins could win 1v2 vs a barb+sin team for free
[1/18/2015 11:23:24 PM] Jolteon (Alex): took me ages to realize he was right

Disagree completely, again.
I'm not being prideful at all.
I posted in this thread asking if people thought PDR was over the top with Medi, because if the majority of people did I would recommend a limitation be involved.
I think PDR/MDR on an ES sorc IS over the top, due to PDR/MDR mechanic's enabling them to avoid practically ALL damage to HP. You can stack PDR on a Paladin and lose a lot to null JUST MB damage, ONLY if they don't use a setup that can enable you to pierce the PDR.

Edit: Good luck getting 40 PDR vs barb/sin. NO reason for that to lose to a Hdin 2v1. That's absurd.
And Kam is a fucking magician on this game. All of his opinions are extreme compared to the average-good player.

This post was edited by young2093 on Feb 27 2015 05:39pm

ur hat + tgods + natures peice = like 49 pdr and tgods, while maintaining 125 just saying


but imo hdin > any char 1v1, even without these fluke pdr setups etc.

Majority means nothing when you got a poll that was up that wanted to ban just medi and it was ignored lmao
once again I was using someone elses words not mine and you are disagreeing with the wrong person.
If you wanna disagree about whether the duel is boring then I guess you could feel free to do so.

and Barb will hit you super fucking hard with 8 DR, while you're forced to charge because of MB.
And you will have like 3900 life.
And it's 1v2....

Druid, Nec, Sin all have advantage IMO. But I don't really care to argue all that again.