Or just go to blizzard website and download no-cd d2 version with your cd-keys.

i already have the iso files. install disk, cinematics, play and expansion.

edit: also, i don't think i have a "game code" for d2. i just have the CD keys, which i assume are completely separate from a "game code" that doesn't involve CDs

This post was edited by jordang on Jul 7 2013 03:54pm

got d2 working in win8. needed patch 1.12 or later installed. grabbed 1.13 off cnet, installed it, then the game ran automatically and dl'ed 1.13c or w/e we're on. I think 1.12 was the first patch to accommodate cd-less d2.
again, i don't have the disks here, so i downloaded the .iso via pirat*** and had some cd keys saved in my gmail account.

only problem now is my nice 19" monitor bit the dust earlier today so i'm on this wretchedly unfamiliar 15 incher.

i might be dueling by the end of the night but i've got hella work to do. If i can get my old monitor working tonight by replacing a blown capacitor or w/e, i'll see who's down to duel.


also, if anyone wants my phone number to schedule duels, hmu
i'm not gonna post it on a jsp thread but like i said, feel free to pm me for it.

tldr: jord is on sp33d again.

amapk up!

i like using redemption for clearing all the dead bodies from the floor, it makes the game lag less. i also delete every potion off the ground if im not feeling lazy

I did not miss any points
I quite literally read every point that you made and commented on each one

I've never been rubber-banded by a Firestorm proc
Upon this, how is the Phoenix proc any different from 25% Torch proc?
I mean if Firestorm is the issue, shouldn't we ban Torches all together?

I already told you, that I've dueled ccsutton while he used Phoenix and I simply didn't have any more trouble against it than if I would have dueled you, Jer or Hayz

The shield has been allowed for so long because no one has ever seen any imbalancing issues with it

As I have said, twice now: I have already tested Phoenix in ZvZ for years and years and years and have already dueled ccsutton while he used it
It doesn't cause me any more inconvenience than if he were wearing a Stormshield or a Swordback

I have very little ZvZ experience?
Ok then, to keep the thread clean, I just won't go there with you



At any rate ~ I already suggested my idea for ruling on this, as has Hayz
Waiting to see what Jer says

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Jul 7 2013 10:02pm

Ehh.. the shield makes fire procs from torch extra deadly.. And as you know sitting in those already does a lot of damage..

If you have tested the shield you would of noticed the timer delay after fs procs was far less then two seconds man. -- You argue that its longer, but its not. So to me, you honestly haven't done any research.

-- The shield adds to max light res
-- it adds to max fire res
-- When used, its almost guaranteed to support more jav play.. which we try not to do to begin with.
--Procs have been banned aside from whatever comes up on your kb gloves and torches
-- the redemption makes it so you doubley have to clear the moor.

Again... I'm not questioning your knowledge on the game in general, boyer, but in actual Zon VS Zon "Competition" as you would put. I Don't think I've ever seen you come remotely close to entering the top 5 on this ladder.. in fact I remember you removing yourself as to save embarresment for bringing in a zva... I was also at one point on the mod list here, maybe if I was put back on my opinion would matter more?

Regardless of what Sutton brought to duel, I expected him to win. He didn't win by a lot. I didn't question his shield after the duel was over, and the loss was taken, but after it had sent me flying halfway across the screen due to fs/torch procs from being hit by a javlin.

You're going to have to come up with a better argument, or defense.. whatever you're doing.

Not an edit will be made

nor fuck given.

typos from any of these posts are from iphone missclicks.

either way. :/

i've never used phoenix and i've never had a problem with players who use it. if anything, it's encouraged me to kite better - knowing full-well that two or three fury crits can take me down.

i think it'd be exceptionally strong when paired with gfg rare eth-rep javas. if more of us could afford rare matris with 500+ max dmg and 40ias, phoenix would be more popular around here. Until that happens, consider yourself on easy street lol.


i play against my homeboy HSKRECOVERY almost every day and he uses phoenix. I've never had a problem with it. Again, it's improved my kiting considerably. Also, if sutton uses it, you're probably not going to win an argument against it. He commands a lot of respect given that we all get our asses handed to us by him on a consistent basis - not because of phoenix but overall skill. In fact, he spams javas quite infrequently if you ask me.

if certain builds rape yours, you need to adapt until you reach a solution. We're all always making revisions so figure out how to beat it instead of claiming that it breaks game mechanics. I don't use phoenix so consider me unbiased.

ps: Hepzibah, i agree that using phoenix can lead to excessive jav spraying. However, you get to play a huge roll in determining whether or not you get fury spammed. if you wanna keep the duel more bow v bow, kite backwards if your opponent is closing in. (seems obvious enough, right?... just requires mindfulness that their jav side does more damage than yours and they still have 48dr both sides.)

Also want to be clear that my argumentation is provided for the advancement of the zon community and not to buff up my ego. I'm willing to change my stance if proper argumentation is brought to the table, but from where i'm sitting, yall are more or less having a regular ole d2 catfight. Keep a positive attitude if you care about the community lol. nobody will respect "argumentation" that sounds like teen angst.


my experience in zvz has lead me to believe that any build-related or gameplay-related obstacle can be overcome and countered by the right thinking. You'll have to persevere and resist the urge to rage, though. It's a competitive environment and that's what makes it interesting.

then it promotes more l8z play.... youre just proving my point.

e/ Refer to post #1 on this thread... Read the rules.. then read what the shield does.

ZvZ Rules
- Faith bows are allowed.
- Fortitude armors are banned.
- No non-amazon skills (Enchant, BO, Teleport, Werebear, etc).
- No cube in inventory.
- No chance to cast % curses/skills (Exceptions include: torch, default spawn mods from crafts).
- No slow target (Nosferatu's Coil is Banned).
- No poison dmg (Plague javelin, charms, etc).
- Regular throw, Jab, Lightning Fury and Bolt are allowed but don't abuse it (Javazons are not allowed).
- Multi is allowed but don't abuse it (keep the 3-volley rule in mind).
- Inventory checks can be requested at anytime during a duel.
- Maximum Replenish Life is 30.
- Open wounds is limited to 75%.
- Slow missiles is NOT allowed.
- Inner sight is allowed.
- Do not leave blood moor.
- Do not Prebuff.
- Do not Prespam.
- Do not use mercs.
- Change sides on map every duel if agreed upon.
- You are not allowed to cross the bridge if a bridge is present.
- Playing overly defensive, Circling around walls/Constantly staying near a bridge/house etc, isn't GM.
- Halting the duel to buy more arrows is allowed if agreed upon.
- Duels take place in Nightmare, map must be cleaned before the match starts

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jul 7 2013 11:05pm