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Jan 24 2022 03:06pm
+1 more for infernos only no hotspurs. 85 max res fire. oak only on vitas, as d2a rules
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Jan 24 2022 03:07pm
Quote (Ethreain @ Jan 24 2022 03:47pm)
es sorcs got the advantage vs blizzard sorcs tho

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91970766&f=147
I duelled here in the first round against a vita fb with hotspurs, its not impossible
shouldnt change rule like this after signup, yes to hotspurs :D


100% quality built es also has a disgusting advantage vs every sorc but im only talking fire vs fire. I have definitely had my ass handed to me vs some of you blizzys. One blizz and clean stomp I'm dead. Far more winnable for blizz vs 95 than a 95 fb vs vita fb though.

God bless aggressive blizzys :love:

This post was edited by TheKrato on Jan 24 2022 03:08pm
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I think we should all post our sorc typing/build.

So that we can prep for each duel unless you guys wanna go in blind an SvS surprise :D
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Jan 24 2022 03:16pm
I believe ppl who wants inferno are here for fun aggressive svs. If u play against 95 es , and majority of rly good sorcs is 95 es atm on d2gm d2a, the duel may take forever vs some players, who regen to full mana after each hit and basically play defensive. 95 es can take 1 FB and run so many times its much much more than 10 on vita hotspurs :)
Thats why hotspurs are there in the rules. Its not mistake or sth old. Just saying. I personally would prefer to duel as vita on inferno vs other vita for quicker rounds. Vs def 95 es im not so sure. But I will accept any outcome, I just don't mind, wanted to state a point.
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Jan 24 2022 03:18pm
Quote (lnacer @ Jan 24 2022 01:13pm)
I think we should all post our sorc typing/build.

So that we can prep for each duel unless you guys wanna go in blind an SvS surprise :D


agree with this

ladders/tourney people typically disclose build before the m/u
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Quote (Byxon1410 @ Jan 24 2022 01:16pm)
I believe ppl who wants inferno are here for fun aggressive svs. If u play against 95 es , and majority of rly good sorcs is 95 es atm on d2gm d2a, the duel may take forever vs some players, who regen to full mana after each hit and basically play defensive. 95 es can take 1 FB and run so many times its much much more than 10 on vita hotspurs :)
Thats why hotspurs are there in the rules. Its not mistake or sth old. Just saying. I personally would prefer to duel as vita on inferno vs other vita for quicker rounds. Vs def 95 es im not so sure. But I will accept any outcome, I just don't mind, wanted to state a point.


You can tank full fb's on 80 and lower and run around and do the same as 95.

95 and 80 make almost no difference in fire vs fire. 1 fireball depletes all mana. For vita vs es, 95 is actually disadvantageous to es. I prefer to have less.

And for es to get to 95, you need to prebuff which is not allowed in most SvS.

You can dump 20 hard in Es and come out with 95 es at the cost of significant drop in fb dmg.

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My own view is you need to have a setup vs each element Es or no Es and therefore I am not precious on this point. Ideally everyone would post ES / Vita and Element but I think i already said this before and have only had 3-4 ppl respond. When all else fails you can always dodge (for now) the builds/players you are not yet prepared against, but bear in mind that there are alot of duels to be completed. Note also i specifically stated bridge map for def-whoring to be mitigated somewhat.

Guys the idea is to stream some of these matches at the KO stage, please see and treat this as a GM tournament. I am not dangling a carrot at this point.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 24 2022 03:24pm
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You can tank full fb's on 80 and lower and run around and do the same as 95.

95 and 80 make almost no difference in fire vs fire. 1 fireball depletes all mana. For vita vs es, 95 is actually disadvantageous to es. I prefer to have less.

And for es to get to 95, you need to prebuff which is not allowed in most SvS.

You can dump 20 hard in Es and come out with 95 es at the cost of significant drop in fb dmg.


Exactly. Even with spurs banned 95 is not viable fb vs fb. Legacy would have a very different opinion but d2r a fucking satellite compared to legacy builds
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For visibility:

If everyone can post whether Vita or ES and their element it would be great. lets keep this topic on top of all the other topics ok. Sorc is the only class OK.



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I am ESFB. So is TheKrato.
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