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Feb 16 2015 10:34am
Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 16 2015 11:58am)
Yes, people might stretch the rules as far as possible, but I am not worried about barbs. I am muh more worried about zons lol.
At least, against a nec, the zon can SM him. That could end up working in his favor though. Against a HF sorc/din they are fucked lol


Techniqually you can put on doom and use decrip, I know zons didn't even last vs my fury with doom on lol.. I don't see how it should be allowed but that's alright I don't play anyway
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Feb 16 2015 10:37am
Quote (jlzm @ Feb 16 2015 12:34pm)
Techniqually you can put on doom and use decrip, I know zons didn't even last vs my fury with doom on lol.. I don't see how it should be allowed but that's alright I don't play anyway


No you couldn't.

Doom isn't gm on a nec.

/e

HLD GM Dueling Rules:
- Only Cold Sorceress's may use the runeword "Doom"

Paladin Specific Rules:
- Holy Freeze is allowed

Necromancer Specific Rules:
- All curses are allowed except Iron Maiden and Life Tap

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 16 2015 10:38am
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Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 16 2015 12:37pm)
No you couldn't.

Doom isn't gm on a nec.

/e

HLD GM Dueling Rules:
- Only Cold Sorceress's may use the runeword "Doom"

Paladin Specific Rules:
- Holy Freeze is allowed

Necromancer Specific Rules:
- All curses are allowed except Iron Maiden and Life Tap


I see, so one question got answered right finally
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Feb 16 2015 12:27pm
Quote (jlzm @ Feb 16 2015 12:45pm)
I see, so one question got answered right finally



Well to be fair all you would've needed to do is read the rules to clarify that :/

I think something like decrep is GM against teleporting characters would be better than the current situation, though. It's mostly zons getting fucked by this. Everything else has reasonable access to teleport, the duration is short, and you can't just c/t off map apply it like amp/weaken.

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Well to be fair all you would've needed to do is read the rules to clarify that :/

I think something like decrep is GM against teleporting characters would be better than the current situation, though. It's mostly zons getting fucked by this. Everything else has reasonable access to teleport, the duration is short, and you can't just c/t off map apply it like amp/weaken.


True I could have but they've changed so much and still in discussion on a ladder filled with spam

However it's easy to name lock.. maybe you all just expect necs to suck now?
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Quote (jlzm @ Feb 16 2015 02:32pm)
True I could have but they've changed so much and still in discussion on a ladder filled with spam

However it's easy to name lock.. maybe you all just expect necs to suck now?


This type of discussion I'll just avoid.
Anyway, my point was it's a lot easier to apply decrep to something that can't teleport and a lot easier to push during its' duration against something that can't just teleport away.

Edit: I wouldn't be against banning it and SM completely (Ive tried to before on d2pk tournaments where block was much more manageable and barbs were at a huge disadvantage) but I don't think many people would be behind that.

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This type of discussion I'll just avoid.
Anyway, my point was it's a lot easier to apply decrep to something that can't teleport and a lot easier to push during its' duration against something that can't just teleport away.

Edit: I wouldn't be against banning it and SM completely (Ive tried to before on d2pk tournaments where block was much more manageable and barbs were at a huge disadvantage) but I don't think many people would be behind that.


If we are talking range we are talking more tpk,

I can understand both sides but think sm should be banned and decrip only gm vs non ias based chars

I think it's a more even playing field that way and it's not like nec is at a huge disadvantage without decrip, same to zon without sm
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Quote (jlzm @ Feb 16 2015 03:10pm)
If we are talking range we are talking more tpk,

I can understand both sides but think sm should be banned and decrip only gm vs non ias based chars

I think it's a more even playing field that way and it's not like nec is at a huge disadvantage without decrip, same to zon without sm


I'm all for it, sounds reasonable enough.
Join the ladder as well, more activity is better, especially competent duelers.
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I'm all for it, sounds reasonable enough.
Join the ladder as well, more activity is better, especially competent duelers.


If i had more time I would, I get on once maybe every 2-3 months if i can

And if i do get more time I will join the ladder, I do still find some enjoyment of d2 pvp every now and again
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