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Jul 11 2015 08:20am
Quote (DeathAwaitsUseastnl @ Jul 11 2015 09:02am)
build > shield... only reason I use a JSRoD is the fact that I'm very charge reliant...
And spirit might be #1... Yeah, I got nothin for this idiot.
Pretty sure John can whip any of our asses at least half the time with just a HoZ..


you are referring to smite vs smite only aka vt/smite/vc/ vs same things which seems to be getting more pointless and closer to zeal and bvb
i am referring as building a vt/smite the way one should make it(vs all)
spirit st/sop st is hands down the best shield(s) and its damage range may be the same as all elite shields as a base but it doesnt have the ed of a jeweled jstod etc or hoz's 2 extra skills

This post was edited by Prominence on Jul 11 2015 08:21am
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vtpk/gm.... is up
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Photos vs Vc (3 vs 1) - 7/11/2015

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#1 Numba1balla
*Balla702
Vc
V/C

#2 qwerty0909
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Nemo
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Photos
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#4 Flipster
*003
Havocthunder
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#5 trix123
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Tynosz
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#6 sasori
*divekick
GBA
V/T

#7 DeathAwaitsUseastnl
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Rebellion
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Ronny
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Quote (Prominence @ Jul 11 2015 06:20am)
you are referring to smite vs smite only aka vt/smite/vc/ vs same things which seems to be getting more pointless and closer to zeal and bvb
i am referring as building a vt/smite the way one should make it(vs all)
spirit st/sop st is hands down the best shield(s) and its damage range may be the same as all elite shields as a base but it doesnt have the ed of a jeweled jstod etc or hoz's 2 extra skills



For once in this pink profile, I agree with Prominence.

A lot of VT's in this ladder are using standard walk smite gears.

It seems VT's are gearing toward pure smiter for the sake of winning and out-smiting other vts instead of skirmishing, where the real fun of vtpk is at.

Because if I wanted a paladin that's geared to killing other smiters, I'd just build a 0 FCR pure damage smite with passive 85 light stack.

Here's the max smite damage and fuck foh skirmish build:

Shako Ber'd
Enigma
Slippers
JSroC
Gtoes
20ias/CB gloves
Dungoes
Dual BK's
Grief PB

Don't even need FCR because of how low fcr these "vt's" are.
And we all know that it's stupid for a high FCR vt (low smite damage due to 75 fcr) to telesmite a low fcr "vt" (low fcr, high smite damage), since all it takes for the low FCR vt is to namelock with smite and wait for the 75 fcr to tele on him - or just spam charge/ out foh the 75 fcr.....
since we all know 0fcr-30 FCR VT's have over 5k foh compared to a 75 FCR Vt's max of 4.5k Foh

This is more of a smite competition than a VT competition.
No wonder the V/C is making it out on top.

This post was edited by Joah on Jul 11 2015 04:09pm
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Jul 11 2015 04:12pm
V/c's are easy to beat
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Quote (trix123 @ Jul 11 2015 02:12pm)
V/c's are easy to beat



Take Challenge #1 then.

V/C's are made to out damage a properly built VT (75 FCR (vs all)). Only way a VT can handle a V/C is through skirmishing, landing foh and smite quickly such that he can't smite back in time (synch).

Take any of these 0 FCR-30 FCR V/T's and V/C and put them in a match against
any other characters and see how badly they'd do with low FCR and low FHR.

My point is VTPK should be about the real VT's skirmishing, not some smiters under the guise of a VT outsmiting one another due to different shields.

Prominence made a solid point about how VTPK is becoming dull like zeal vs zeal and bvb, with the point of VTPK heading toward pure out-damaging through smite
rather than heading toward the proper 75+fcr speed build with tactics like up charging and having to c/t tele.

No point tele'ing in this VTPK ladder.
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put me on vacation for like a week or so till I get mine back up
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Quote (Joah @ 11 Jul 2015 16:24)
Take Challenge #1 then.

V/C's are made to out damage a properly built VT (75 FCR (vs all)). Only way a VT can handle a V/C is through skirmishing, landing foh and smite quickly such that he can't smite back in time (synch).

Take any of these 0 FCR-30 FCR V/T's and V/C and put them in a match against
any other characters and see how badly they'd do with low FCR and low FHR.

My point is VTPK should be about the real VT's skirmishing, not some smiters under the guise of a VT outsmiting one another due to different shields.

Prominence made a solid point about how VTPK is becoming dull like zeal vs zeal and bvb, with the point of VTPK heading toward pure out-damaging through smite
rather than heading toward the proper 75+fcr speed build with tactics like up charging and having to c/t tele.

No point tele'ing in this VTPK ladder.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54142029&f=147&o=7430

Already defended #1 to him
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