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Apr 11 2017 03:34am
Quote (Argand @ Apr 11 2017 07:27am)
I can vouch that Drack really took a longer time to bo. In case he got an amulet in his inventory to replace it while boing, it is indeed a 'Precast' since one has to switch items just for boing and then switch items for dueling again. Therefore it does not matter if your items are in inventory or in stash.

I guess BlackTwister made a point here and his story sounds trustable.
Therefore Drack should explain and show how he gets to 8k life and unfortunately be banned from this current tour.


Wel he did show me his eq and I can imagine u can reach 8k life or more with it .
And perhaps rules cover everything that isn t alowed . It doen t help me with desciding what to do if they get violated .
Its always same shit in every tour . Me inbetween 2 or more ppl forcing me to take action without solid proofs.

Anyway he recieved a Final warn on this tour . Any News that come to my ears over a new violation WIL result in a instant ban .


In next tours I wil state the exact concequentions for breaKing specific rules so I dont have to take a side anymore and just aply the rules .
How sad it might sound . Bvb just aint what it used to be .
Probs like this never occured back in the Old days .

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Apr 11 2017 03:52am
To do list for next tour.

1. Check eq + chamrs of opp be4 duel to avoid any misstakes or cheats. ( Missatkes like switching from ffa/aow with 15 dungo and forget about it can be made, so might be good to check even if u trust opp. )
2. If the duel is bm styled, take that discussion right there and say stop it or we play with ref asap. ( after duel is done its to late and no idea to complain )

This post was edited by vOoLdO on Apr 11 2017 03:53am
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Quote (vOoLdO @ Apr 11 2017 09:52am)
To do list for next tour.

1. Check eq + chamrs of opp be4 duel to avoid any misstakes or cheats. ( Missatkes like switching from ffa/aow with 15 dungo and forget about it can be made, so might be good to check even if u trust opp. )
2. If the duel is bm styled, take that discussion right there and say stop it or we play with ref asap. ( after duel is done its to late and no idea to complain )


Sounds solid . Lets do it from now on imo
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Apr 11 2017 06:26am
RaZeNxD vs Mrstyle
5-1

RaZeNxD 19pts
Mrstyle 3 pts

T4ds :)

Edit:

Missing

Drack
Amandine
Stefan20kk


I'll probably meet with Stefan today as we discussed.
Same goes for Amandine.
Tried to pm Drack sometimes, He's having full inbox most of times.


This post was edited by RaZeNxD on Apr 11 2017 06:28am
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Quote (vOoLdO @ 11 Apr 2017 11:52)
To do list for next tour.

1. Check eq + chamrs of opp be4 duel to avoid any misstakes or cheats. ( Missatkes like switching from ffa/aow with 15 dungo and forget about it can be made, so might be good to check even if u trust opp. )
2. If the duel is bm styled, take that discussion right there and say stop it or we play with ref asap. ( after duel is done its to late and no idea to complain )


Sounds good to me too.

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Apr 11 2017 07:21am
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well, i wanna say something aobut that story too, he said he could reach 8.2k life with is eq, i can trust him, but it does not mean that he can each more life when pre boing, and that he just didnt say it not to make the cheat too obvious.
once again, no offense, i dont know the guy, i'm sure he is really nice, and i think he didnt rlly wanna cheat, mayb 'tried' coz rules can be a little bit tricky, so he tried to play in between the lines? ( i wanna find the best out of anyone ) now the facts are clear.. if he wanted to keep on cheatingn he would not admit of having 'sometimes' a pre bo amu, wouldnt he?

and checking all the items and inv before everyduel can be done but 1- it takes the fun away ( and honnesty? ) 2- if opponent dies, he respawns before you can get back in town, and might change 1 sc for another from stash without u seing it, what we do? check at every start? ask opponent not to spawn before u are in town so u can see he aint going to stash? or just trust?? think we are all grown up, and from now on, we should just act following the rules ;) i count on you all



and finally : i left dueling in diablo coz of all the cheats etc, changed my bva to bvb aow coz i though its the only place to find trusted players, i hope it doesnt change guys, dont make me sad, make me proud ;)

This post was edited by barillolmino on Apr 11 2017 07:33am
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Apr 11 2017 07:32am
:rofl: 90% DramaReduction :rofl:

There wil be a rematch between Twister - Drack since score was only 1- 4 and Drack kindly dropped the 5 - 1 win Twister suggested incase he would refuse Rm.
Duel will go down with ref and hopfully asap.

Now lets finish this.

Peace


To be clear with the "check opp eq" thing.
Thats something u do if u want to as its always been. No1 will be forced to do it, but ur forced to show if some1 asks.
Its just a good thing its written here to make ppl more comfy with asking for it.


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Quote (barillolmino @ 11 Apr 2017 13:29)
well, i wanna say something aobut that story too, he said he could reach 8.2k life with is eq, i can trust him, but it does not mean that he can each more life when pre boing, and that he just didnt say it not to make the cheat too obvious.
once again, no offense, i dont know the guy, i'm sure he is really nice, and i think he didnt rlly wanna cheat, mayb 'tried' coz rules can be a little bit tricky, so he tried to play in between the lines? ( i wanna find the best out of anyone ) now the facts are clear.. if he wanted to keep on cheatingn he would not admit of having 'sometimes' a pre bo amu, wouldnt he?

and checking all the items and inv before everyduel can be done but 1- it takes the fun away ( and honnesty? ) 2- if opponent dies, he respawns before you can get back in town, and might change 1 sc for another from stash without u seing it, what we do? check at every start? ask opponent not to spawn before u are in town so u can see he aint going to stash? or just trust?? think we are all grown up, and from now on, we should just act following the rules ;) i count on you all



and finally : i left dueling in diablo coz of all the cheats etc, changed my bva to bvb aow coz i though its the only place to find trusted players, i hope it doesnt change guys, dont make me sad, make me proud ;)


That's xd!!!!
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Apr 11 2017 12:40pm
Quote (cranium-sf @ Apr 11 2017 10:34am)
And perhaps rules cover everything that isn t alowed . It doen t help me with desciding what to do if they get violated .
Its always same shit in every tour . Me inbetween 2 or more ppl forcing me to take action without solid proofs.


Of course rules can't tell you what to do if someone breaks the rules, but they don't have to. That's not what they are meant to do.
To decide how to treat someone who is breaking the rules is always up to the host of a tournament or a league. Because this tournament is YOUR tournament.

All in all it's normal if you find yourself in situations like these. Don't let your head down because of this. And stuff like this always happened, even in old tournaments.
Don't worry! You're doing good anyway :)

About Vooldos suggestion: Yes, that's what people should do anyway if they don't know and/or don't trust other people. It's up to them.
Might be wise to do it, before one starts a fight after the duel is done, over things that might have been but can't be proven, because they didn't show eq to each other.
But it shouldn't be mandatory.

This post was edited by Argand on Apr 11 2017 12:41pm
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Quote (Argand @ 11 Apr 2017 08:27)
I can vouch that Drack really took a longer time to bo. In case he got an amulet in his inventory to replace it while boing, it is indeed a 'Precast' since one has to switch items just for boing and then switch items for dueling again. Therefore it does not matter if your items are in inventory or in stash.

I guess BlackTwister made a point here and his story sounds trustable.
Therefore Drack should explain and show how he gets to 8k life and unfortunately be banned from this current tour.


I go full strg/dex but repl 8k life each duel with hyb cta :ph34r:

On a serious note I check my life and and def before each duel and turn back walking mode. I don't see a 10sec delay as horrible. I also dare to chat before, after or during duel.
I understand some concerns but asking me items would be easiest solution. If I used something wrong on accident I'll state that tho experienced this both ways in the past already and repeated the duel than.


And:

If you would see full logs I also said that I use eth forti steelclashs god, bb and Tal set and i stand to this statement ^__^

Ofc did not screen but ppl where ingame :rofl: context matters

One might see this overreaction as being buthurt in a way :o

As far I remember max life with useful items I reach is 8319 but I use mana built :Santa:

Will be up for duels in 10min

Edit: if I feel opponent does ow in an unusual amount
of times or I feel me damage is always below average id probably ask to show belt/gloves or items in general for
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Quote (Argand @ 11 Apr 2017 21:05)
sorry, Drack, but I dont really understand what your point is.

Just state clearly and honestly:
Do you use Hybrid CTA or 3 Bo Amulet in this tournament?


kinda boring question after all has been said/claimed/prooved/suggested etc

i know that provacative in this region but... what the hell would be wrong with hyb cta? I used a cta of doom cuz its more expensive its like using eth scs if there where any.. i dont see the point. i would not use cta of beast cuz has advantage in +10energy.

i did not used anything that was unfair advantage in any counted duel in this tour, i used everything in between and from now on cba to step in any more traps like previously setted up ^^ getting paranoid

atm i use bo clubs and i think those are best for my builds

when i muled / obtained few more itoms i gladly show you all the setups i used and will still use with no regrets from the beginning to now i see my choices as suboptimal still by the by :angry:

edit2: is anyone up to duel that hasnt played against me so far?

This post was edited by Drack on Apr 11 2017 02:40pm
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