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Apr 10 2017 02:29pm
Quote (WhiteMen @ 10 Apr 2017 22:11)
hmm maybe look on screens from BlackTwister first ......

he show me eq , but only eq, not bo switch and not inventory.....

U have no idea whats said be4 or after in that convo.


1. I spoke to drack, also duelled him ingame . ( 3- 1 me so far ofc^^)
2. He can prove by showing eq that his 82xx life build is possible.
3.Cranium thats hosting tour can prolly arange a meeting and a shwoff. ? :) Can ofc help if nessesary

4. End of that.


This post was edited by vOoLdO on Apr 10 2017 02:30pm
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Quote (vOoLdO @ Apr 10 2017 10:29pm)
U have no idea whats said be4 or after in that convo.


1. I spoke to drack, also duelled him ingame . ( 3- 1 me so far ofc^^)
2. He can prove by showing eq that his 82xx life build is possible.
3.Cranium thats hosting tour can prolly arange a meeting and a shwoff. ? :) Can ofc help if nessesary

4. End of that.


my last word of this neverending storyy ( coz you for 100% wanna defending him )

1. He play with Oldwarriors and use Hybryd CTA ( not only with him )

2. He play with Blacktwister and use 3bo amulet ( + some prebo stuff )

3. also in screens you clearly see that he say about prebo !

Summary " I did not know that steroids are banned " ...... :thumbsup:

...end of my spam...

This post was edited by WhiteMen on Apr 10 2017 02:42pm
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Quote (WhiteMen @ 10 Apr 2017 22:41)
my last word of this neverending storyy ( coz you for 100% wanna defending him )

1. He play with Oldwarriors and use Hybryd CTA ( not only with him )

2. He play with Blacktwister and use 3bo amulet ( + some prebo stuff )

3. also in screens you clearly see that he say about prebo !

Summary " I did not know that steroids are banned " ...... :thumbsup:

...end of my spam...



Never fun to stand alone vs a mob of angry bvbrs.

Drack is a friend i trust aswell as the other bvbrs i know:) I got his story and no proofs of hybs ctas and so on.

thats just it:)

Peace

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Never fun to stand alone vs a mob of angry bvbrs.

Drack is a friend i trust aswell as the other bvbrs i know:) I got his story and no proofs of hybs ctas and so on.

thats just it:)

Peace



hmm im not angry and for me It does not matter what the moderator will do about it ,,,

If you would read my posts with attention, I wrote that for me the most important thing is a fair and cool tournament. Friendship in the fight and in principle should not take place!, should be fair rivalry for anyone and the facts do not indicate, open your eyes! Not only i complaining about this things / facts .... You can not be the judge of this dispute if you suggest a friendship ! ... " I got his story and no proofs of hybs ctas and so on. " no proofs ? how the hell no proofs if 2 guys see hims hybryd cta and BlackTwister prebo stuff , more he also saying about that during the fight like you see in screens , what else you need ?
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Quote (WhiteMen @ 10 Apr 2017 23:22)
hmm im not angry and for me It does not matter what the moderator will do about it ,,,

If you would read my posts with attention, I wrote that for me the most important thing is a fair and cool tournament. Friendship in the fight and in principle should not take place!, should be fair rivalry for anyone and the facts do not indicate, open your eyes! Not only i complaining about this things / facts .... You can not be the judge of this dispute if you suggest a friendship ! ... " I got his story and no proofs of hybs ctas and so on. " no proofs ? how the hell no proofs if 2 guys see hims hybryd cta and BlackTwister prebo stuff , more he also saying about that during the fight like you see in screens , what else you need ?


Whatever i say here it wont change anything so idc.

But if ppl seen the hyb ctas and bo amus and all what there is, theres not much to do.

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Apr 10 2017 11:54pm
With current rules I have nothing to back me up . Heard 2 storys so its word against word .
In the conversation is nothing to see about he admitting to use prebo in tour duels . Only him saying that he somthimes use amu in inv for Bo . No admitment that he use it in tours .

Eq can indeed provide him above 8k life w/o bufs.


From now on ask drack to show his eq before u guys start fight .
If any1 has stil doubts or complaints about playstyle during a duel .Ask him for a instant s/s with current chat at that time displayed or Stop the fight and continue later with a admin ingame.



For further tours I wil remake the ruletopic so I can fall back on 100% detailed rules to back me up in every situation. As the current pic is a bit chaotic textwise and doenst cover everything .


Plz Let this be the last of this . Just end the tour .
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Quote (cranium-sf @ Apr 11 2017 06:54am)

For further tours I wil remake the ruletopic so I can fall back on 100% detailed rules to back me up in every situation. As the current pic is a bit chaotic textwise and doenst cover everything .



Trust me, mate. It does cover everything :)



- "Not allowed: [...] the use of: 'Precasts'"

-> This includes ofc Prebo, Enchant and any other type of Precast that you can imagine. Thats why we called it "Precasts" and not only "Prebo" - you have to cover MORE than only prebo.

Since this is written in the part 'General rules', it applies to AoW as well as FFA. Even in (GM) FFA Prebo and Enchant are not allowed!


Next thing:
In GM FFA:
- "Banned Items: 'Hybrid Rune Words'"

In AoW:
- "Banned Items: All Hacked/Bugged items/charms [...]"



These rules are very detailed and truly cover everything, they're not really chaotic, people just have to read them carefully and apply General rules + either Additional GM FFA rules or Additional AoW rules. People always understood them and used them. Just because one guy is cheating, you dont have to rewrite the rules :D

Thing is though, if someone is breaking these rules, you will never really have a chance to prove it after people left the game. No matter how you write the rules.
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Apr 11 2017 01:20am
Quote (cranium-sf @ Apr 11 2017 05:54am)
With current rules I have nothing to back me up . Heard 2 storys so its word against word .
In the conversation is nothing to see about he admitting to use prebo in tour duels . Only him saying that he somthimes use amu in inv for Bo . No admitment that he use it in tours .

Eq can indeed provide him above 8k life w/o bufs.


From now on ask drack to show his eq before u guys start fight .
If any1 has stil doubts or complaints about playstyle during a duel .Ask him for a instant s/s with current chat at that time displayed or Stop the fight and continue later with a admin ingame.



For further tours I wil remake the ruletopic so I can fall back on 100% detailed rules to back me up in every situation. As the current pic is a bit chaotic textwise and doenst cover everything .


Plz Let this be the last of this . Just end the tour .


He didnt deny it either. I pointed out that it took him half a minute to bo, asked him if he preboed and therefore he mentioned about the amulet. When I suggested that preboing is illegal he replyed that according to his own FFA rules it is not. One more proof that he did prebo. All the things above to counteract that preboing cant be proven by the s/s'. He indeed did prebo and this is pretty obvious even in the dialogue itself. Thanks for your time anyway.

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Quote (BlackTwister @ Apr 11 2017 08:20am)
He didnt deny it either. I pointed out that it tool him half a minute to bo, asked him if he preboed and therefore he mentioned the amulet. When I suggested that preboing is illegal he replyed that according to his own FFA rules it is not. One more proof that he did prebo. All the things above to counteract that he indeed did prebo and this is pretty obvious even than in the dialogue itself. Thanks for your time anyway.


I can vouch that Drack really took a longer time to bo. In case he got an amulet in his inventory to replace it while boing, it is indeed a 'Precast' since one has to switch items just for boing and then switch items for dueling again. Therefore it does not matter if your items are in inventory or in stash.

I guess BlackTwister made a point here and his story sounds trustable.
Therefore Drack should explain and show how he gets to 8k life and unfortunately be banned from this current tour.
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Quote (Argand @ 11 Apr 2017 09:27)
I can vouch that Drack really took a longer time to bo. In case he got an amulet in his inventory to replace it while boing, it is indeed a 'Precast' since one has to switch items just for boing and then switch items for dueling again. Therefore it does not matter if your items are in inventory or in stash.

I guess BlackTwister made a point here and his story sounds trustable.
Therefore Drack should explain and show how he gets to 8k life and unfortunately be banned from this current tour.


Alrdy done to Cranium afaik.

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