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Aug 14 2012 07:56am
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Aug 14 2012 08:11am
Quote (HayzBaby @ Aug 14 2012 09:51am)
I dont like it for the reasons of unfair advantage towards eveeyone else on the ladder not using it


it's like wsg.. c/t'ing was discovered a LONG time ago and has been used by a few people since (much less than those who know how to wsg).. not other persons faults for not using it. A similar argument would be banning the use of wsg because other people don't use it.

I honestly don't care, just giving my opinion. you're fortunate none of these people know how to double c/t


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Aug 14 2012 08:24am
I see C/T being brought in to question
Here are my thoughts on the topic along with a couple others that I had been meaning to bring up:

* Decoy ~ Needs to be banned entirely
I have nothing against the use of Decoy other than how it elongates the shit out of a match when both players are using Decoy as constant mobile Bone Armor
If one player starts using Decoy, then the other player starts using Decoy and this turns a 30 minute ft5 in to a 2 hour long ft5
In the end, the player with more skill/patience is going to win regardless of if they are using Decoy or not (Most people would agree with me on this)
It's just a matter of if this is going to happen in 30 minutes or 2 hours
This is why I strongly suggest that Decoy becomes banned in ZvZ ladders

* Pooling Arrows ~ I don't feel this should be banned, it's just my own opinion
When arrows are pooled, people don't worry about running out of quantity and they play super defensively, which makes the match takes forever
When you only have 350 quantity per round you are forced to approach eachother and duel mid-range more often so that you don't waste your quantity (this promotes a faster match style)
Again, generally the more experienced player is going to win regardless of if you pool arrows or not
it's just a matter of if it happens in 20 minutes or 60 minutes

* C/T
I could take it or leave it, despite how powerful of a technique that it is
I much prefer matches where c/t is not being used against me so that I don't need to use c/t
Constantly flashing your character/skill tree screens on and off is quite epileptic and ugly to look at while trying to duel ^^




What does everyone else think about this?
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Aug 14 2012 08:31am
Ban all consumables as well imo.
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Aug 14 2012 08:41am
I agree with everything said. Good points
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Aug 14 2012 09:29am
Ill actually take back what i said. But i do agree with everything.

Decoy is annoying at times, but without using decoy. It would promote stronger valks, which we all know can be pests at times.

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Aug 14 2012 09:36am
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I too have tried c/t but im like cusstton. It hinders me. But what fixes that? Learning to aim. I'd rather have a match soley based on skill then be bashed by an exploit. This game wasnt made to use your chr and skill menus up the whole time. Rep on the other hand is just another stat bonus. We've had our fair arguments over the limit. 

But when your skill is soley dependant on having to use c/t to win matches, its disgraceful. You may not think so Jawn, but it is. But you can take the c/t back to pub games where it belongs along with the rest of the bad duelers



go ahead and pull a mod move and be a sore loser

u ban it b/c you have no clue how to counter it

in both ft5's we did, you stood in my c/t angles for soooo long, it was like dueling a rookie

just b/c some ppl are good at it, but hinders your performance, doesn't mean it should be banned

meds will be meds

This post was edited by Jawn16 on Aug 14 2012 09:36am
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Aug 14 2012 09:45am
Its a different story when regular c/t is just the upper left and right corners. When you've practiced it enough to do it from every corner. Then yes it is a problem. Yes it henders me from countering. Can i counter? Yes. But you find it so entertaining to do it from all corners AND use decoy that it forces me to a: be defensive and let you come to me or b: i force myself upon you, where yet again you spam that decoy and c/t. I love to dance, if you dont know what that is, this ladder isnt for you. Everyone here can back me up on that. This field of dueling is the hardest of all ladders. And using cheap exploits which you claim are tactics, to win rids everyone of all their hard work from practice.

Cusston is by far the best dueler on this ladder. And when you walts up in here, knock him off first try!? There is so.mething wrong and it is now quite obvious
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Aug 14 2012 10:12am
Quote (HayzBaby @ Aug 14 2012 10:45am)
Its a different story when regular c/t is just the upper left and right corners. When you've practiced it enough to do it from every corner. Then yes it is a problem. Yes it henders me from countering. Can i counter? Yes. But you find it so entertaining to do it from all corners AND use decoy that it forces me to a: be defensive and let you come to me or b: i force myself upon you, where yet again you spam that decoy and c/t. I love to dance, if you dont know what that is, this ladder isnt for you. Everyone here can back me up on that. This field of dueling is the hardest of all ladders. And using cheap exploits which you claim are tactics, to win rids everyone of all their hard work from practice.

Cusston is by far the best dueler on this ladder. And when you walts up in here, knock him off first try!? There is so.mething wrong and it is now quite obvious


hard work and practice

i lol'd

c/t isn't a cheap exploit if you know how to counter it, but clearly you don't know how

csutton does a good job, you should learn from him

c/t isn't a glitch like wsg and requires "hard work and practice" for it not to hinder your performance

ban it b/c you have no counter for it!

This post was edited by Jawn16 on Aug 14 2012 10:13am
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Aug 14 2012 10:18am
defended #3 spot vs hazy

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