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Feb 4 2022 10:30am
Quote (bigbody989 @ Feb 4 2022 11:29am)
So, you want to svs, but you want to do it "off the record"? Sounds scared to me.


you have stated multiple times that you play es orber aggro...just trying to give you a chance to back it up in an effort to legitimize the build. guess you just want to troll gl.
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So, you want to svs, but you want to do it "off the record"? Sounds scared to me.


mental gymnastics :wallbash:
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Feb 4 2022 10:39am
Quote (iceydicey @ Feb 4 2022 11:30am)
you have stated multiple times that you play es orber aggro...just trying to give you a chance to back it up in an effort to legitimize the build. guess you just want to troll gl.


No, I don't want to troll. I want to see how well I can do vs legit sorcs. The ladder is in place to legitimize builds/skills. That's the whole point of a tourney/ladder. You say no to orbers because they're "too defensive". If I play too defensive, disqualify me. I'd be fine with that. I'd be out in the first match if that's the case. But, if you want to stick to your arbitrary rule because of fear, that's fine also.
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Feb 4 2022 10:52am
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No, I don't want to troll. I want to see how well I can do vs legit sorcs. The ladder is in place to legitimize builds/skills. That's the whole point of a tourney/ladder. You say no to orbers because they're "too defensive". If I play too defensive, disqualify me. I'd be fine with that. I'd be out in the first match if that's the case. But, if you want to stick to your arbitrary rule because of fear, that's fine also.


you say it's an arbitrary rule because you don't understand it, but it was created by people who have been svsing for 10-20 years because orb is inherently defensive and cancer to play against.

i offered to give you a chance to show the legitimacy of the build in duels in order to start the discussion to have the rule changed, but you want the rule to be changed just right off the bat without any demonstration of an aggro es orber.
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Feb 4 2022 10:56am
Quote (bigbody989 @ Feb 4 2022 09:39am)
No, I don't want to troll. I want to see how well I can do vs legit sorcs. The ladder is in place to legitimize builds/skills. That's the whole point of a tourney/ladder. You say no to orbers because they're "too defensive". If I play too defensive, disqualify me. I'd be fine with that. I'd be out in the first match if that's the case. But, if you want to stick to your arbitrary rule because of fear, that's fine also.


Understand this one very basic fact.

If you cannot stomp someone with orb, you cannot play offensively. Not running does not mean playing offensively. You have no means to play offensively. You can only tele around and spam orb.

Full stop.
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Feb 4 2022 11:16am
Quote (iceydicey @ Feb 4 2022 11:52am)
you say it's an arbitrary rule because you don't understand it, but it was created by people who have been svsing for 10-20 years because orb is inherently defensive and cancer to play against.

i offered to give you a chance to show the legitimacy of the build in duels in order to start the discussion to have the rule changed, but you want the rule to be changed just right off the bat without any demonstration of an aggro es orber.


I absolutely understand your fear. If the build doesn't fit your cookie cutter style dueling that you've mastered over the last 10 years, then it's not allowed. It's okay to be scared of losing. Just say that though. Don't make up excuses about a build being "too defensive" when being too defensive, in general, is already in the rules. The funny part is, I guarantee most of your ladder would be running from me the whole time. I promise I won't complain about them being too defensive.

Quote (TheKrato @ Feb 4 2022 11:56am)
Understand this one very basic fact.

If you cannot stomp someone with orb, you cannot play offensively. Not running does not mean playing offensively. You have no means to play offensively. You can only tele around and spam orb.

Full stop.


"If you cannot stomp someone with orb, you cannot play offensively" - not true at all. :bonk:

"You can only tele around and spam orb" - also not true. Orb requires aim and timing. Think of it like herding cattle.

This post was edited by bigbody989 on Feb 4 2022 11:17am
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The funny part is,I guarantee most of your ladder would be running from me the whole time. I promise I won't complain about them being too defensive.


ok i'm going to stop responding now LOL pm me if you want to see how your es orber does vs a 200 vita fb

everyone else feel free to weigh on in if you want this guy playing an es orber on this ladder

This post was edited by iceydicey on Feb 4 2022 11:32am
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Feb 4 2022 11:33am
Quote (iceydicey @ Feb 4 2022 11:30am)
ok i'm going to stop responding now LOL pm me if you want to see how your es orber does vs a 200 vita fb

everyone else feel free to weigh on in if you want this guy playing an es orber on this ladder


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Feb 4 2022 11:36am
I mean with his only replies being "you're scared" "fear" its clearly a troll or child. So no from me dawg, less drama the better
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Feb 4 2022 11:37am
For visibility I also pmd him and made comment in the Tournament <no response>.

As its a ladder and not a tournament its easier to change the rules (if there was a majority vote or if the host/moderators agreed).
Also, as the ask is specific to a unique build I could have let him in the tournament that I am hosting IF the tournament was not already well advanced (which it is).

The bottom line here is you made a proposal, it was a balanced view, he did not take up the offer, I suggested he try discussing rules elsewhere.
let him decide what he wants to do.

lets move on.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 4 2022 11:49am
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