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Sep 13 2011 04:59pm
Quote (Numba1balla @ Sep 13 2011 02:54pm)
no 1 person has a problem with it , almost ever1 will agree with what i bolded below


like i said ill consider it, taking evrey1s opinion into consideration.

rules will be up, before it starts once again..

any other suggestions problems?
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Sep 13 2011 05:24pm
Quote (Smiters @ Sep 13 2011 01:55pm)
If Cleg are bm then Hf would be so too they both slow.



EXACTLY you are correct. West Melee gm rules are no cast hf and no cleg hehe. I am not saying I don't want hf... I love hf I do just as good without it, but it's bm, it's unfair to zerker and I know good people not joining cause of it.


every smiter has hf not every smiter has clegs o.o so clegs are way more bm then *hf* could
and hybirds should be bm if hf is bm in this tounrmant, cb makes the smite alot stronger..
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Sep 13 2011 05:30pm
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every smiter has hf not every smiter has clegs o.o so clegs are way more bm then *hf* could
and hybirds should be bm if hf is bm in this tounrmant, cb makes the smite alot stronger..


on what hybrid is there cb ?

god = ds and dex
fort of chains ?

lmk if iam wrong ~
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Sep 13 2011 05:31pm
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every smiter has hf not every smiter has clegs o.o so clegs are way more bm then *hf* could
and hybirds should be bm if hf is bm in this tounrmant, cb makes the smite alot stronger..


mike ur the only one here saying hybrids are bm ~

hf / has been agree'd b4 this turney that its BM

This post was edited by Numba1balla on Sep 13 2011 05:31pm
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Sep 13 2011 05:42pm
Quote (Numba1balla @ Sep 12 2011 09:19pm)
proves nothing .


Wht was I trying to prove?
Quote (mikeeeee @ Sep 12 2011 10:05pm)
oh hybirds are back i am not not in this tournmanet gl guys, aka justin sits in #1 or scott and justin switch from #1 and #2


cuz we the best on west so forget the rest ;)

Quote (relinquished2 @ Sep 13 2011 09:12am)
i want to join if the hf is if one agrees, then its allowed ^^


Nice mike brofist.

Quote (LordTrogdor @ Sep 13 2011 11:15am)
Lordtrogdor
Char - Ryno
Acc - *Ryno.
Type - vT
Paid

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vouch, but only if both agree.

/ee

challenges should have to be pm'd.... i didnt see that in the rules, if you challenge someone you need to pm them, not everyone is going to check this site every day to see if they were challenged.


First off sean you don't use "lmao beast knuckles!!11"

second of all why should preference be given to the person who dosen't want to use it?

It's bm vs other ias chars like barbs/zeal/zon but both smtiers/vts can use it so it's not givnig anybody an advantage

Quote (Smiters @ Sep 13 2011 12:11pm)
This guy wants to join but is disabled on jsp or something

His Acc: Scythe
Character/Smiter Name: Lo



And you all need to stop with the hf gm bs... If you can't pk without it, you suck. I love hf pk but it is slow. I'll just use Clegs then.


nn clegs faggot

Quote (Numba1balla @ Sep 13 2011 12:52pm)
Some people build is away from hf , considering zerk  builds ?

So no ppl dont suck ~ and i can beat u with hf ~ but perfer not 2


e/ clegs should be deff considered bm , but iam not like all these other ppl sayN

"imma drop out ect if no hf or imports"  imma stay regardless ~


clegs is a constant slow, it would kinda of take away any variety in the gloves so I don't like the idea, hf is different because it;s about timing



Quote (k1ngj036 @ Sep 13 2011 02:26pm)
i will think about this..

im thinking about banning clegs and making HF 2/2 vote for no hf....

but too many people with too many problems..

i will consider these more..


Pure and simple, if smiter/vt can't hf somebody then they suck. I mean lets be honest the point of this is to find the best vT or smiter. The best vt or smiter will be able to handle hf, you aren't going to find the best vt/smiter throwing a bunch of handicapps at kids who cant add another aura to micro-manage.


Quote (k1ngj036 @ Sep 13 2011 02:59pm)
like i said ill consider it, taking evrey1s opinion into consideration.

rules will be up, before it starts once again..

any other suggestions problems?


Those rules weren't written for smiters, it was for zons/barbs etc. Smiters are very specific and because it's a mirror matchup nobody gets a one-up over somebody else.

But yet again let me remind you, this isn't meant to be easy if you're trying to find the #1 vt and smiter, you need to let people go all out, not restrict them.

If somebody wants to hf then they will, if not, they wont.

If I didin't like somebodys foh I couldn't be like "omg foh is bm"

The only reason this is in question is because of wests traditional rules that WEREN'T MEANT FOR SMITE but I've already explained why the rules don't apply so the choice is pretty obvious to allow hf.


Quote (mikeeeee @ Sep 13 2011 03:24pm)
every smiter has hf not every smiter has clegs o.o so clegs are way more bm then *hf* could
and hybirds should be bm if hf is bm in this tounrmant, cb makes the smite alot stronger..


We gain 20%cb and 10dex but lose -25% target defence

If you had 45's it's not like we'd ask you to take them off bc your opponent could only afford 40 pcomb lifers so why are you wanting us to sacrifice our gear?

also cb is weak as shit, it's about 1/20 of the persons total hp, it really only gives a slight help if you proc it first hit.

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Quote (Numba1balla @ Sep 13 2011 04:31pm)
mike ur the only one here saying hybrids are bm ~

hf / has been agree'd b4 this turney that its BM


hybirds give an advantage... but w/e its not my tournament, i am not joining so what i care
and no hf duels are boring lol i can do both but i would do hf any time over no hf
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Wht was I trying to prove?

cuz we the best on west  so forget the rest ;)



Nice mike brofist.



First off sean you don't use "lmao beast knuckles!!11"

second of all why should preference be given to the person who dosen't want to use it?

It's bm vs other ias chars like barbs/zeal/zon but both smtiers/vts can use it so it's not givnig anybody an advantage



nn clegs faggot



clegs is a constant slow, it would kinda of take away any variety in the gloves so I don't like the idea, hf is different because it;s about timing





Pure and simple, if smiter/vt can't hf somebody then they suck. I mean lets be honest the point of this is to find the best vT or smiter. The best vt or smiter will be able to handle hf, you aren't going to find the best vt/smiter throwing a bunch of handicapps at kids who cant add another aura to micro-manage.




Those rules weren't written for smiters, it was for zons/barbs etc. Smiters are very specific and because it's a mirror matchup nobody gets a one-up over somebody else.

But yet again let me remind you, this isn't meant to be easy if you're trying to find the #1 vt and smiter, you need to let people go all out, not restrict them.

If somebody wants to hf then they will, if not, they wont.

If I didin't like somebodys foh I couldn't be like "omg foh is bm"

The only reason this is in question is because of wests traditional rules that WEREN'T MEANT FOR SMITE but I've already explained why the rules don't apply so the choice is pretty obvious to allow hf.



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We gain 20%cb and 10dex but lose -25% target defence

If you had 45's it's not like we'd ask you to take them off bc your opponent could only afford 40 pcomb lifers so why are you wanting us to sacrifice our gear?

also cb is weak as shit, it's about 1/20 of the persons total hp, it really only gives a slight help if you proc it first hit.


you guys are 1 of the bests and what makes you stand out is your hybirds.. lol..

We gain 20%cb and 10dex but lose -25% target defence

If you had 45's it's not like we'd ask you to take them off bc your opponent could only afford 40 pcomb lifers so why are you wanting us to sacrifice our gear?

also cb is weak as shit, it's about 1/20 of the persons total hp, it really only gives a slight help if you proc it first hit.


lol at your cb, if you vs ppl with no god and cb gloves vs someone with just cb gloves.. they hit much stronger then you
+20 cb if they have cb gloves is like 3x times stronger then if its 10dif damage.. -target deffence.. lol i would take 20 cb+10dex > w/e you say there is a reason why the item is 16k, its like ridged.. and not everyone goes out and spends 150 dollars on it or go buys $100 on fgs

This post was edited by mikeeeee on Sep 13 2011 05:59pm
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Also let it be known in general I play worse with HF but I don't think it's right to handicap people. I play a vT but when a t/v wants to ft5 I do it in hell because theres not point in weakening their foh (their main ability) when my smite(my main ability) is unaffected because it's not fair to throw handicaps and restrict peoples characters.

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you guys are 1 of the bests and what makes you stand out is your hybirds.. lol..


I could beat you with or without my hybrid i have it for style points more than anything else.



Also is numba1balla and lordtrogdor the only ones who doesn't want hf? Sure seems like it..

I want hf
Smiters wants it
relinquished2 wants it
pretty sure mikeee wants it
I know lordtrogdor is capable of hf pk because he doesn't cry about it

This post was edited by ggssti on Sep 13 2011 06:07pm
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Quote (ggssti @ Sep 13 2011 04:54pm)
Also let it be known in general I play worse with HF but I don't think it's right to handicap people. I play a vT but when a t/v wants to ft5 I do it in hell because theres not point in weakening their foh (their main ability) when my smite(my main ability) is unaffected because it's not fair to throw handicaps and restrict peoples characters.



I could beat you with or without my hybrid i have it for style points more than anything else.



Also is numba1balla and lordtrogdor the only one who doesn't want hf? Sure seems like it..

I want hf
Smiters wants it
relinquished2 wants it
pretty sure mikeee wants it
I know lordtrogdor is capable of hf pk  because he doesn't cry about it


just do pure svs with your god
no foh lmk..
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Sep 13 2011 06:06pm
Quote (mikeeeee @ Sep 13 2011 04:00pm)
just do pure svs with your god
no foh lmk..


no foh? lol then you can't charge.

foh is the other half of my char like charge is the other half of yours.

I'm gonna take off GoD becase you're under the impression that it makes a difference but I'm not gonna sacrifice half my char.
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