lifetap = bm.

i dont mind if both players agree to it.

but you shouldnt be "allowed" to lifetap in zvz when its not a mutual agreement. like this ladder where challengers decide if its tap or non-tap, regardless of what the other person agrees to.

10years of trial and error with the ruleset > your oppinion on things..

Buy a tap set or dont zeal.. maybe try conc or fury

Tbh tho the community isnt grimy and if u dont have an exile i highly doubt someone would still tap vs you. Just ask em if non tap is fine..

This post was edited by ThePinkPanther on Dec 13 2018 08:49am

lifetap is bm (unless both parties agree to it), we'd rather not have the rng involved from lifetap be such a significant factor in melee duels. let the better char win, plain and simple.

this is one of the reasons why alot of ladder melee ppl quit last season

if the rules made it so that both players had to agree to tap then it would be 100% fine.

but everyone with an exile starts complaining that they only lose because they use stats for their tap setup lol

This post was edited by AnonymousLee on Dec 13 2018 09:01am

I simply dont agree. They all quit because they couldnt get the gg items and would lose to the better melee guys. That is what I seen atleast because like I said before no one had exile only a few guys and the guys who did would respect the guys who didnt and not fight them using tap because they are gm melee. Lack of building a character shouldnt result in changing rules that have been debated on for years. Tap has stood this long why take it out now.

I also never complained about not having a pure non tap build. I beat almost every single one of the ladder guys in 2/3 comp style fights. The top 5 guys on ladder are the only people I remember that gave me any trouble. Almost went undefeated at the start of the melee ladder before I got my 21 day temp ban and had to step down.

I never got to fight your char though lee. You always sold them

yeah true, i sold my top zealer before i was able to enter and climb the ladder. but quickly lost interested when i realized challengers could request tap duels even against my nontap zealer, which would be bm imo.

if yall say people would respect non tap zealers and not force them into tap duels vs nontap then i would applaud you, but the rules still allow tap vs nontap to take place without both parties agreeing to it, which isnt fair at all imo.

This post was edited by AnonymousLee on Dec 13 2018 09:09am

Lee hosted the grief zeal ladder that got ignored. Then vrael put in the good work and we had gm melee.. lee go smite v smite


You had a top zealot? What rank did you finish at?

This post was edited by ThePinkPanther on Dec 13 2018 09:12am

I agree some people can use that to their advantage but I never did. I love exile though. Very sexy sheild

that was a 1 time tournament for the 8 of us that all had grief (because nobody had any rare weapons or edcs yet and there was no ladder up yet) were the only ones in public melee games early in ladder season. if you cant tell the difference between a 1 time tournament and a melee ladder then sorry man

we were still using edc for gm melee dueling when more people started playing ladder.

perhaps you should go back to non ladder if u want more people to play with early on in ladder seasons

Gm Melee Tourney Grief/451's aloud?

it wasnt that early i had erep fools axe and erep sacred 2os while u hosted that tourney... there was plenty of gear.
when i suggested a gm tourney you flamed me ad told me that gm rules were stupid or some version of that.. why is grief bm comment... w/e bro
no respect for you man.. your a pubs bm zealot. that has no respect for the rules or the competition.

ask Euxinus, anotherauradin, Vokalz87, BBQsex, or anyone that was in the melee scene early last ladder before you showed up and the gm melee ladder started