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Quote (Bugeater @ Nov 24 2021 06:46pm)
30/30 wep
3/20/2os circ, 2x facets
viper, facet
spirit
2/10 ammy
sojs
arach
torch+anni
9gcs
battlecry
-100 for hell

= 385 pierce

someone at 440 now has 55 res
12k+ blizz does 900+ per hit, this 4-5 hits nearly all characters

you can push the -res farther, even without doom, but this build will actually work in a lot of matchups if you play defensively.
and someone smarter than me can probably come up with a way to push it farther without completely gimping your build

why does everyone want to change 15 year old rules for cold stack when nothing about that mechanic has changed?


That's exactly the build I would expect 2021 join date to put together lmao. This would bomb out in the first or second round of the bracket.

No way you can reach 385 pierce and stay competitive in a 1v1 tour. 340-350 is more realistic
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Quote (legen @ Nov 21 2021 11:58am)
When you however over your res's, it shows your max including anyas. Not sure why anyone would think anyas are not included within a rules like that?........
Easiest way to enforce/make people screenshot for proof.

https://i.imgur.com/ypDYE5m.png

/e;

Even shows max res, kinda nice
Wish they added %sorb and int sorb!

https://i.imgur.com/EHBcCsv.png


res stays the same if you swap weps without moving mouse - you can open cta side, hover mouse over res, then swap and it will show the same res on the cta side
e. for res that is maxed both sides, doesnt show the right bonus

This post was edited by Krat on Nov 24 2021 08:02pm
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Quote (Krat @ Nov 24 2021 09:00pm)
res stays the same if you swap weps without moving mouse - you can open cta side, hover mouse over res, then swap and it will show the same res on the cta side
e. for res that is maxed both sides, doesnt show the right bonus



Ppl can also keep a plain flail in the stash and swap for hoto to screenshot if they really wanna lie about it
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Quote (Aaronoob @ 24 Nov 2021 19:46)
Every rule set has their own rules over the last 15 years. Most didn’t even have cold stack limits


exactly

svs did, bc thats really the only place anyone should give a shit if blizz is a viable 1v1 build, and it was 450 for a reason. the cold sorc has to give up so much to go over the pierce at that point it generally wasn't worth it.

it massively cuts down on the cheesy bs builds

Quote (Chad_Thundercock @ 24 Nov 2021 19:48)
That's exactly the build I would expect 2021 join date to put together lmao. This would bomb out in the first or second round of the bracket.

No way you can reach 385 pierce and stay competitive in a 1v1 tour. 340-350 is more realistic


if your running -350 then 440 and 450 makes no difference to you. why do you care?
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Quote (TYCH0 @ Nov 24 2021 04:02pm)
ain’t nobody reading that manifesto


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Should adding an exception to eth spirit on CTA side
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Quote (Bugeater @ Nov 24 2021 04:12pm)
exactly

svs did, bc thats really the only place anyone should give a shit if blizz is a viable 1v1 build, and it was 450 for a reason. the cold sorc has to give up so much to go over the pierce at that point it generally wasn't worth it.

it massively cuts down on the cheesy bs builds



if your running -350 then 440 and 450 makes no difference to you. why do you care?



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Quote (TYCH0 @ Nov 25 2021 06:02am)
ain’t nobody reading that manifesto


It's not a manifesto. Lol. I just asked the question why is it that everybody likes to pvp but there are so few ppl pvping and then I just solve the question myself. Course I probably went into too many nuances and also prescribed some hypothetical solutions (or existing solutions used by the community), so I wrote a lot more than what I had planned to. That post could be summarized in a paragraph or so, but I'd be lazy to repost.

It takes more effort to work through the 65 pages on this thread lol. We must have Blizz recognise that this is a pvp game, or else all the patches that they release will rain like dogshit on our lil gig!

Upvote this one: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/pvp-make-it-official-long-post-part-23/7521
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What's the consensus on cold stack? I can't sift through 60 pages right now

I duel from time to time on my ES blizz and 385+raven feels horrible enough lol. Eliminates all skill from both parties and I'm by no means terrible.

The worst matchups for a blizzer arguably end up becoming harder as well and forces extremely defensive play.

It's not that much of an issue in teams as cold stack gimps you against other classes but in a 1v1 tournament setting where you can't use a conventional setup there is no way your duels won't be lasting an hour, no matter how good you are.

Also, I could have sworn I saw some guy saying that his hybrid sin should be able to tank 12 blizzards? Does he have a say in the rules? I forgot who it was, but it does not bode well if he does.

This post was edited by lllll on Nov 25 2021 02:02pm
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