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Quote (TheGreatWalk @ Nov 10 2021 01:22am)
Oh M8 you missed a bunch

Legit pissed in a bottle mid duel


such a wild night, almost forgot that this happened too
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At the end of the day its the same ol....Fun for a few minutes as your main game is loading up, anything past the toxicity ramps up.
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Quote (Arkontas @ Nov 9 2021 12:18pm)
Hey hey! I was hoping I could ask some of you guys how these scenarios are since I don't have an enigma and haven't really spent anything on gear to pvp yet.


How is playing as an amazon and getting dodge locked?

Do paladins still desync constantly with charge?

How is dealing with a non-brain dead barbarian that leap spams you and separates you from your zoo since you can't TT anymore

How is dealing with a non-brain dead sin that mindblast locks you and can lay 5 traps in less than a second

Is the new meta looking more like a BvC, ww/trap sin, and paladins that can make use of fanat and charge?

Is D2R RvR and should I just go back to D2L?


Thanks, sorry I have been keeping an eye on it as much as I can with the search filter and picking up little clues here and there, but I thought I'd ask these things directly. Maybe it will help others trying to watch this all unfold, too!


Something weird going on in D2r with zon dodges. It's not so easy to dodge lock a Zon anymore, which is very surprising with the removal of WSG and desynch.
When people figure out to use 6fpa with Diamond/Shadow at the new 150% or 155% ias breakpoint with 60/160 setups, Zon will likely be dominant under Assassin.
The sheer stun lock potential from a 6fpa GA with knockback should be enough to carry Zon in the new meta. We'll have to see though.

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Something weird going on in D2r with zon dodges. It's not so easy to dodge lock a Zon anymore, which is very surprisingly with the removal of WSG and desynch.
When people figure out to use 6fpa with Diamond/Shadow at the nw 150% or 155% ias breakpoint with 60/160 setups, zon will be likely be dominant under Assassin to where 6fpa may need to be banned.
The sheer stun lock potential from a 6fpa GA with knockback should be enough to carry Zon in the new meta. We'll have to see though.


Yeah I'm hesitant to make a faith due to the ias caps being missing. dunno if blizz will fix it or not but bowzon isn't a high priority right this second due to it :/

I'm probably going to go javazon first, I'm hoping we can use plague jav instead tho since barbs, sins, and paladins basically got a huge indirect buff. dunno if that'll make a damn difference but it would still be gearing towards the bowzon as java in its own way.

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At the end of the day its the same ol....Fun for a few minutes as your main game is loading up, anything past the toxicity ramps up.
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How long do your games take to load?
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How long do your games take to load?



Meant that generally, like sitting in another lobby waiting for it to fill.
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the bastards actually did nerf enigma :wallbash:
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Quote (Aaronoob @ Nov 9 2021 12:07pm)


Top pvp builds in no particular order imho.

BvC
Max block Windy
Bone necro
Smite charger

No FOH cause it’s banned in tourney and BM but it’s good for being a prick in pubs

Edit: and a good spider sin played right


U wut
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Quote (TSBoyer @ Nov 10 2021 09:36am)
Something weird going on in D2r with zon dodges. It's not so easy to dodge lock a Zon anymore, which is very surprising with the removal of WSG and desynch.
When people figure out to use 6fpa with Diamond/Shadow at the new 150% or 155% ias breakpoint with 60/160 setups, Zon will likely be dominant under Assassin.
The sheer stun lock potential from a 6fpa GA with knockback should be enough to carry Zon in the new meta. We'll have to see though.


hahahaha yeah this is gonna be some funny shit




This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Nov 10 2021 09:28pm
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Quote (legen @ Nov 10 2021 07:25pm)
Top pvp builds in no particular order imho.

BvC
Max block Windy
Bone necro
Smite charger

No FOH cause it’s banned in tourney and BM but it’s good for being a prick in pubs

Edit: and a good spider sin played right


U wut


I think hybrid sins are probably first just for the fact that they have WW to ignore stuns, a ranged instant spammable stun that they can kill with via traps, the ability to abuse the broken ias frames with bos, and clawblock. Like entering D2R, this class was the winner.

barbs with leap spam being an aoe, ww, and access to fanat is huge.

chargedins look solid due to charge and fanat. desync loss kind of sucked, but desync in a 1v1 wasn't ever really that dangerous vs someone that understood what the paladin was doing it was more a nightmare in like random FFA pubs or team fights- imo at least I'm open to people disagreeing but as a druid I had a lot of ways to deal with their desync if I knew they were doing it so I'm biased. all fpk classes can deal with it.

I think a bowzon using faith and exploiting the ias bug with fanat, and how they seem to not get dodgelocked anymore is something to keep an eye on.

With the druids, it's true that if they stunlock someone with a stomp with nados it is basically over, but the fact that GOOD sins (idc about the sins you kill in public duel games) were such a hard counter to them in D2L and theyre now BUFFED- by default that will never let druids get past them in ranking/tier. And then they lost TT to use against BvC where they would use the minion stack, without it it makes BvC a lot harder of a matchup and you can't just tell people to get good and TT if they bring up using max block to try and balance it out, they are kind of strong armed a lot harder into relying on that over actual skill to stack the zoo during leap spam. But it's true, I won't deny it- druid stomping someone and them not having WSG is basically death. However, being forced into a MB setup can potentially put the druid at more of a risk to being stunlocked due to the smaller HP pool they're working with now if they're scared enough of barbs to basically need to always use MB if they smell one of them lurking around. This being for team fights or ffa's obviously.

Necros.. I feel like necros are just an amazing class, but they really got hurt losing TT and WSG to turn around an ugly situation and attack out of it. They're still good, like what the f*** are you going to bring a fireball sorc? no. they're good it's just painful what happened.

Those are my thoughts on it all. I am in no way some god of PvP, but I have played a lot over the years on and off so it's not coming from someone completely clueless to pvp. So grain of salt with what I'm saying, but I would imagine it's pretty close to the mark.
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