Lmfao verballed the entire thread

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2012 tier list? Not to mention it's a troll list lmao they have me listed as t5 or t6 or something 😂

You only know one language? Bigot?

The way people use wsg now is completely different compared to what it was, say, pre-2010 ish. Once people started getting good at wsg casting etc, the meta changed to revolve around it more.

I think if they removed wsg, they would either have to completely change the way FHR works, or at the very minimum, change how the swirl debuff works. That being said, if they remove wsg without changing anything else, people would still find a way to be successful without it. Example, Austin one time 3-0’d me NvT without pressing W once just to prove a point (worst loss of my life, and the idiot used immune to lightning iron golem but w/e fuck you austin).

IBS, desynch, str bug, and other bugs aren’t even close to as important as wsg, and pvp would be fine without them.

You cant beat me

-Holywater

On east I almost never wsg nvd but on ga/asg I constantly self synch and get melted by nados that are a half screen away if I dont wsg more frequently. Like if you are walking down regularly and block animation goes off it's pretty much already too late to wsg. I guess this wouldnt be as much of an issue with d2r though since its 1.14d


Also yea duelers can definitely adapt to no wsg and play more cautiously but that's also less fun and we would probably see a lot more l8z playstyles because if you get caught hard you're probably dead. With wsg it's fun to take offensive risks because you still have a chance to escape. Also 1v1s are one thing but any kind of team dueling situation with swirls is really rough without wsg

/e pls remove ibs though

This post was edited by urkel182 on Feb 24 2021 07:01am

Invisible skills should be taken away from the game. Also remove desynch.
I believe the stun from mind blast and fhr could be slightly nerfed to allow the fhr to actually work in those situations better vs tornado mind blast etc. But people going invisible and shit on your screen and invisible hammers needs to be removed as it is not vital to the gameplay and is a bullshit mechanic.

Honestly if crowd control or stuns had some sort of Dminishing returns on it would need less of the WSG. Or if fhr actually worked.

This post was edited by Gringito on Feb 24 2021 08:30am

Doesn't every game, even modern ones, have at least a little desync? I don't think you can completely fix server lag between players. I agree that the game doesn't need invisible offscreen casting. Wsg is really only needed because of mb and maybe amazon needs it. Otherwise pvp could probably adapt without it. I'd of course rather have it stay though for the reasons Steve explained.

haha vouch, nobody new is guna wana play pvp if the first time they go in moor they get synch hammered and dont even know wtf happened. I think if the game is going to get a new user base itll need to remove it. that being said, if its just all the original players coming back itll still be a good user base and be the same game. so idk how i feel

I meant if wsg is only used to shake off fhr and not desync at all like piwah said



I'd personally prefer that. it'd make it easier to predict their stomps

This post was edited by rayshs on Feb 24 2021 09:59am