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are only paladins allowed? i was thinking about doing a necro or zon zealer. Got to admit a trang necro zealer would be funny.
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Dec 10 2010 03:11pm
Quote (thecrazykiller @ Dec 11 2010 06:20am)
are only paladins allowed? i was thinking about doing a necro or zon zealer. Got to admit a trang necro zealer would be funny.


u CAN. IF. u dont use elemental dmg(fire cold lightning) and no psn what so ever. i think its 100 ele dmg max
but if i were u i wouldent enter a non pally zealer. u would get stomped
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u CAN. IF. u dont use elemental dmg(fire cold lightning) and no psn what so ever. i think its 100 ele dmg max
but if i were u i wouldent enter a non pally zealer. u would get stomped


i'm pretty sure a bone zealot could win as long as bone armor isn't bm. I was thinking zon however.
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Dec 12 2010 12:36am
Quote (thecrazykiller @ Dec 11 2010 01:35pm)
i'm pretty sure a bone zealot could win as long as bone armor isn't bm. I was thinking zon however.


Well I guess that's fine for a zon zealer but just read on the front page about the rules
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Well I guess that's fine for a zon zealer but just read on the front page about the rules


no where did it mention bone armor being banned or casting curses other than no amp on weapon. That might be construed as taking advantage of a situation though and even if not bm get enough moaners and groaners to change it. I might make a zon or sorceress zealer however. zon for innersight and dodge, sorc for ar boost and tanking. I think a barb could fare well druid and necro could only do good if summons became allowed, after some deliberation i'm probably going to do a melee sorc or zeal barb because zon is a little gimped since no valk allowed. I use to do barb zealot just for fun and they are funny as hell to beat people with. Just read chant is forbidden so probably no sorceress. plus i forget whether or not 100%es is bm.

One question though , would warcry and battle cry be bm if only cast once per duel? I wouldn't spam either one just wondering. I'd assume no to warcry yes to battle cry since it does no damage and is just a debuff. I might do druid as well if summon crow is allowed.

Also a link to a guide to what is considered bm would be good as i usually pub therefore its play by ear.
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Dec 13 2010 08:15am
Quote (thecrazykiller @ Dec 13 2010 08:36am)
no where did it mention bone armor being banned or casting curses other than no amp on weapon. That might be construed as taking advantage of a situation though and even if not bm get enough moaners and groaners to change it. I might make a zon or sorceress zealer however. zon for innersight and dodge, sorc for ar boost and tanking. I think a barb could fare well druid and necro could only do good if summons became allowed, after some deliberation i'm probably going to do a melee sorc or zeal barb because zon is a little gimped since no valk allowed. I use to do barb zealot just for fun and they are funny as hell to beat people with. Just read chant is forbidden so probably no sorceress. plus i forget whether or not 100%es is bm.

One question though , would warcry and battle cry be bm if only cast once per duel? I wouldn't spam either one just wondering. I'd assume no to warcry yes to battle cry since it does no damage and is just a debuff. I might do druid as well if summon crow is allowed.

Also a link to a guide to what is considered bm would be good as i usually pub therefore its play by ear.


most of what u said is BM, summons are BM (he didnt specify in script but its always been a BM EXCEPT only oaksage or HotW) only because it causes no extra or added effects to the other plater.)
if u use warcry or battlecry it is BM cuz its like casting slow or decrep on another person.
i would suggest since u dont use elemental dmg or auras such as lighting, it would be useless.. a standard zealer had 55kDef 5k+ max dmg and 22kAR. a standard zon zealer would only have like 20kar. 9k defence and 2k dmg. u wouldent last 2-3 zeal atacks.
conc barbs, fury druids and pally zealers are the 3 strongest physical type. but look if u wanna make a physical zon zealer. i would be glad to show u how useless they are to a pally zealer. the only thing zons can do is high perfermance is a jabazon.
gl tho. pm me in a few days if u get setup. heading out for work so i wont be back for like 2-3 days.
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most of what u said is BM, summons are BM (he didnt specify in script but its always been a BM EXCEPT only oaksage or HotW) only because it causes no extra or added effects to the other plater.)
if u use warcry or battlecry it is BM cuz its like casting slow or decrep on another person.
i would suggest since u dont use elemental dmg or auras such as lighting, it would be useless.. a standard zealer had 55kDef 5k+ max dmg and 22kAR. a standard zon zealer would only have like 20kar. 9k defence and 2k dmg. u wouldent last 2-3 zeal atacks.
conc barbs, fury druids and pally zealers are the 3 strongest physical type. but look if u wanna make a physical zon zealer. i would be glad to show u how useless they are to a pally zealer. the only thing zons can do is high perfermance is a jabazon.
gl tho. pm me in a few days if u get setup. heading out for work so i wont be back for like 2-3 days.


i'd be glad to show you how much you underestimate 88% block/dodge combo any extra defense and you just became a whiff zealot.
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Dec 15 2010 10:05am
Quote (thecrazykiller @ Dec 14 2010 08:57am)
i'd be glad to show you how much you underestimate 88% block/dodge combo any extra defense and you just became a whiff zealot.


ok no worries. u set up ur zon zealdump and u vs me. ill be glad to not wear a shield vs u to see if u can even hit me (before i bitchslap u first)
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Dec 15 2010 08:17pm
Quote (thecrazykiller @ Dec 13 2010 06:57pm)
i'd be glad to show you how much you underestimate 88% block/dodge combo any extra defense and you just became a whiff zealot.


88% dodge block huh, the rest of us would love to show you ias dodge/block lock ...cant win if u cant attack

This post was edited by ForgottenYouth on Dec 15 2010 08:17pm
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Dec 16 2010 06:11pm
where do all you melee'ers duel at?

i just made a zealer i wanna test him out.

pm me details on the duel games, or if you wanna just 1v1 for fun
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