Quote (young2093 @ Feb 11 2015 07:01pm)

I don't think people are grasping that Meditation =/= life replenish.

Life replenish caps apply to life replenish.
A completely passive stat that is always healing you so long as you've lost life.
Mediation has to be activated, using it stops you from playing how you should be to kill a competent high tier build (no one is going to stomp with Medi up..), and it prevents you from benefiting from Vigor or Concentration.

Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 11 2015 07:08pm)

No, I think everyone is grasping it fine. They are just complaining that if the hdin wanted to then he could have medi up 100% of the time and use 500ish dmg hammers. Yes, he would lose dmg but would gain hp/mp regen and be able to outlast the opponent in an extended duel. I believe that is what Vin was talking about when he said Austin could go without using conc and still climb the ladder.

Also, I don't think anyone else was saying to use it 100% of the time but that the moment a duel lulls a din could pull it out to rep a few hundred life before engaging again.
That is, I believe, the argument of most of the anti medi people :D

Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 11 2015 07:08pm)

No, I think everyone is grasping it fine. They are just complaining that if the hdin wanted to then he could have medi up 100% of the time and use 500ish dmg hammers. Yes, he would lose dmg but would gain hp/mp regen and be able to outlast the opponent in an extended duel. I believe that is what Vin was talking about when he said Austin could go without using conc and still climb the ladder.

Also, I don't think anyone else was saying to use it 100% of the time but that the moment a duel lulls a din could pull it out to rep a few hundred life before engaging again.
That is, I believe, the argument of most of the anti medi people :D

Quote (ElCubanito @ Feb 11 2015 07:18pm)

why the hell are people still typing up essays regarding diablo 2 in 2015

Quote (ElCubanito @ Feb 11 2015 07:18pm)

why the hell are people still typing up essays regarding diablo 2 in 2015

Quote (xXiCeYmFeRXx @ Feb 11 2015 06:37pm)

If not hardstatting prayer is out of the question, then maybe you should further limit the amount of life replenish from gear allowed on a paladin which has 1 to prayer. ie regular rep limits for hdins w/o prayer.... no rep or severely limited rep for hdins with 1 pt prayer. Just an idea.

Quote (yostraydog @ Feb 11 2015 06:42pm)

or just drops the fucking debate, we've gone 9 years of the same rules and when literally ONE fucking cry baby cries after 9 years we reinvent the wheel? No, just ignore the babies.

Quote (xXiCeYmFeRXx @ Feb 11 2015 07:37pm)

If not hardstatting prayer is out of the question, then maybe you should further limit the amount of life replenish from gear allowed on a paladin which has 1 to prayer. ie regular rep limits for hdins w/o prayer.... no rep or severely limited rep for hdins with 1 pt prayer. Just an idea.