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Feb 11 2015 03:33pm
Quote (legen @ 11 Feb 2015 21:30)
Maturity level of a 12 year old :/

Seriously though, dont know what troubles your having in life to cause huge shift in personality the last few weeks, but i hope you work it out.


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Feb 11 2015 03:33pm
Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 11 2015 05:00pm)
and I could be mistaken, but I think the dmg from MB is higher than the rep from medi.


I believe my HvT setup is like slvl 17 Meditation @ 1 base point (anything more than 1 base point should NEVER be allowed)



@slvl17-22 formula is: (http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Meditation)
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(2*Prayer.lvl) - 15

(2*17)-15
34-15= 19
19/2 (healing applied every 2 seconds) = 9.5hps





Off the top of my head, I believe with 20 base points in MB you end up with slvl 36 MB with no +MB on claws. (Potentially +3 MB each claw, slvl 42 MB?)
slvl 36: 224-234 MB damage (229 average)
slvl 42: 272-282 MB damage (277 average)

PvP penalty:
slvl 36: 229/6 = 38.16
slvl 42: 277/6 = 46.16

50 DR (which is not the case for my HvT setup):
slvl 36: 38/2 = 19 ADPMB (average damage per MB, after penalties, disregarding integer absorb)
slvl 42: 46/2 = 23 ADPMB

I feel comfortable saying any competent sin is going to be at least 102 FCR.
10 frame casting = 2.5 casts per second
slvl 36 (@ 50 DR): 19*2.5 = 47.5 ADPS
slvl 42 (@ 50 DR): 23*2.5 = 57.5 ADPS



TLDR: Worst case scenario, with no +MB from claw staff mods, 50 DR (my HvT is only 39 DR, to get 50 you have to sacrifice lightning damage mitigation efficiency..), MB deals 5x more damage than Meditation heals. Also I'd like to point out how valuable MB is over other staff mods on your claws, huge effective damage increase from +6 MB.

This post was edited by young2093 on Feb 11 2015 03:36pm
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Feb 11 2015 03:35pm
Quote (young2093 @ Feb 11 2015 04:33pm)
I believe my HvT setup is like slvl 17 Meditation @ 1 base point (anything more than 1 base point should NEVER be allowed)

http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/paladin/meditation.jpg

@slvl17-22 formula is: (http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Meditation)
Code
(2*Prayer.lvl) - 15

(2*17)-15
34-15= 19
19/2 (healing applied every 2 seconds) = 9.5hps



http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/ass/skillz/mindblast-bt.gif

Off the top of my head, I believe with 20 base points in MB you end up with slvl 36 MB with no +MB on claws. (Potentially +3 MB each claw, slvl 42 MB?)
slvl 36: 224-234 MB damage (229 average)
slvl 42: 272-282 MB damage (277 average)

PvP penalty:
slvl 36: 229/6 = 38.16
slvl 42: 277/6 = 46.16

50 DR (which is not the case for my HvT setup):
slvl 36: 38/2 = 19 ADPMB (average damage per MB, after penalties, disregarding integer absorb)
slvl 42: 46/2 = 23 ADPMB

I feel comfortable saying any competent sin is going to be at least 102 FCR.
10 frame casting = 2.5 casts per second
slvl 36 (@ 50 DR): 19*2.5 = 47.5 ADPS
slvl 42 (@ 50 DR): 23*2.5 = 57.5 ADPS



TLDR: Worst case scenario, with no +MB from claw staff mods, 50 DR (my HvT is only 39 DR, to get 50 you have to sacrifice lightning damage mitigation efficiency..), MB is deal 5x more damage than Meditation heals. Also I'd like to point out how valuable MB is over other staff mods on your claws, huge effective damage increase from +6 MB.


There refering to my 25 pdr berberber circ i used in that 2v2 duel thou
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Feb 11 2015 03:37pm
Quote (young2093 @ Feb 11 2015 03:33pm)
I believe my HvT setup is like slvl 17 Meditation @ 1 base point (anything more than 1 base point should NEVER be allowed)

http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/paladin/meditation.jpg

@slvl17-22 formula is: (http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Meditation)
Code
(2*Prayer.lvl) - 15

(2*17)-15
34-15= 19
19/2 (healing applied every 2 seconds) = 9.5hps



http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/ass/skillz/mindblast-bt.gif

Off the top of my head, I believe with 20 base points in MB you end up with slvl 36 MB with no +MB on claws. (Potentially +3 MB each claw, slvl 42 MB?)
slvl 36: 224-234 MB damage (229 average)
slvl 42: 272-282 MB damage (277 average)

PvP penalty:
slvl 36: 229/6 = 38.16
slvl 42: 277/6 = 46.16

50 DR (which is not the case for my HvT setup):
slvl 36: 38/2 = 19 ADPMB (average damage per MB, after penalties, disregarding integer absorb)
slvl 42: 46/2 = 23 ADPMB

I feel comfortable saying any competent sin is going to be at least 102 FCR.
10 frame casting = 2.5 casts per second
slvl 36 (@ 50 DR): 19*2.5 = 47.5 ADPS
slvl 42 (@ 50 DR): 23*2.5 = 57.5 ADPS



TLDR: Worst case scenario, with no +MB from claw staff mods, 50 DR (my HvT is only 39 DR, to get 50 you have to sacrifice lightning damage mitigation efficiency..), MB is deal 5x more damage than Meditation heals. Also I'd like to point out how valuable MB is over other staff mods on your claws, huge effective damage increase from +6 MB.


That is only in one duel scenario though to be fair. I think anyone who has dueled a l8zing din with medi can attest that the rep is quite noticeable.
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Feb 11 2015 03:38pm
Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 05:35pm)
There refering to my 25 pdr berberber circ i used in that 2v2 duel thou


Obviously that's a big deal. I think the problem there is the PDR and not Medi LOL.

Edit: I remember Alex talking about using a PDR helmet on D2PK DvT. It's obviously insanely good vs MB.
I think there's a HUGE underlying issue with PDR against Trap here LMAOOO.

This post was edited by young2093 on Feb 11 2015 03:40pm
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Feb 11 2015 03:39pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 11 2015 05:37pm)
That is only in one duel scenario though to be fair. I think anyone who has dueled a l8zing din with medi can attest that the rep is quite noticeable.


To be fair, Nec has better range and Druid is well equipped to chase, both of which you can not effectively null their damage with some PDR item.
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Feb 11 2015 03:41pm
Quote (young2093 @ Feb 11 2015 03:39pm)
To be fair, Nec has better range and Druid is well equipped to chase, both of which you can not effectively null their damage with some PDR item.


Just throwing some ideas into the pot to be considered :) Bed time for me goodnight :lol:
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Feb 11 2015 03:41pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 11 2015 05:37pm)
That is only in one duel scenario though to be fair. I think anyone who has dueled a l8zing din with medi can attest that the rep is quite noticeable.


Well of course it is noticeable. It still isn't enough to win them the duel if you aren't standing in their hammers.
Not that hard to grab a NL MB without getting into a hammer field.
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Feb 11 2015 03:43pm
i stopped reading for 2 hours.. not even going to try to catch up with this.
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Feb 11 2015 03:43pm
Quote (n9neballking @ Feb 11 2015 08:42am)
you've never beat my smiter. Ever.

Fact.


Lmk game
Wnt be hard
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