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Jun 9 2011 09:20am
Quote (Gaffle @ Jun 9 2011 10:03am)
Imo hon is the only reason this ladder is anything at all. So im iso of his opinion on the duel being nulled or counted


I agree with the decision the other moderators made. I did not realize the duel was nulled at the time he said he was ready to duel and dueled him anyway. Was my fault for not checking. I'm on four ladders so things get confusing sometimes :P

The rules are clear in that the duel should have taken place in 3 days and no extension was requested. We are trying not to bend the rules as rules are in place to keep order and structure. Bending rules lead to problems:
e.g. 1 Post 451 shows SirOmNomNom arguing that the duel should be nulled, in which he was correct. He may have tried to incorrectly challenge #2 but his intentions of trying to move up were clear and my challenge with eric_mcc was in the way.
e.g. 2 Post 468 shows DrObgyn challenging Eric_mcc because he saw that the duel was nulled.

According to the rules, my duel with Eric_mcc was considered nulled from Jun 7 2011 03:36am and therefore SirOmNomNom should have been free to challenge eric_mcc. Unfortunately, he challenged the wrong person, due to some misunderstandings of the rules, so his challenge does not go through. DrObygn correctly challenged eric_mcc.

I apologize for all this. I should have correctly seen that the duel was nulled (I have proof that it is not considered a dodge as I was on several time throughout the three days and eric_mcc was not on when he said he would be on) and not dueled him.

As a plus, please welcome DrObgyn as an additional ladder moderator. We now have four ladder moderators so hopefully future incidents like this won't happen as duels will be nulled right away. Please get in your results before the deadline or they will not count!

Please PM me with further questions on the rules if you have any as I will be the final ladder moderator to comment on this issue and with a unanimous decision, this issue will be lain to rest. I am a bit upset that eric_mcc chose to accuse this ladder of being biased towards grim members. If any of you happen to feel this way, please PM me and I will try to answer your questions/explain my actions in the most unbiased manner as I can. This ladder is meant to be fun and hope you all enjoy your duels as well as your climb to the top!
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Jun 9 2011 09:33am
Spring Colors!
Current Standings:


1. Commerce | XxPvPSiNxX | *KickYoAss | Traps Assassin
2. MajSlayer | Gengar | *Stamina | Poison and Bone Necromancer (40-50% block)
3. Secretkiller | ignore | *windy | Elemental Druid (Vitality)
4. Eric_mcc/ vGD /*Grief/ BVC
5. DrObgyn/Wolves/*Vine/Vita Ele Druid
6. SirOmNomNom / Kraken / *ESHIELDNECRO / Vita Hammerdin
7. hella_exp2/Predator/*V8Hate/Vita Pnb
8.Lucasi/ Grew / *Bodily /vita Ele Druid
9. GrandHustla/Hydrocodone/Oxy/Mb Smiter
10. lively/Demi/*Sorc/Manly trapsin
11. xkimchi/IU/*T-ara/hybrid bowfury
12. ClonesOfDiablo/Grassy/*Winning./Vita Nec
13. greatoneseth3/DKA-Deception/*greatoneseth9/mb pnb necro
14. LegendaryIcicle//Tiffany//*T-ara.//ES lighter
15. dmurdoch1/oriolez/*INSERTACCOUNTHERE/vanquisher
16. wert1449/Ass/*tit./vita ele druid
17. RedFlamingo / Haz / RedFlamingo / Mb Es Blizz
18. gzus / PDAs / *gzus / Mb Ele Druid
19. Ravaging/Pink/Panties./Bitch Pansy Ass Trapper


Challenges:



10. lively/Demi/*Sorc/Manly trapsin Challenges 8.Lucasi/ Grew / *Bodily /vita Ele Druid
Jun 6 2011 07:15pm
- Need results by 7:15 PM EST today

13. greatoneseth3/DKA-Deception/*greatoneseth9/mb pnb necro Challenges 12. ClonesOfDiablo/Grassy/*Winning./Vita Nec
Jun 6 2011 10:20pm
- Need results by 10:20 PM EST today

17. RedFlamingo / Haz / RedFlamingo / Mb Es Blizz challenges 15. dmurdoch1/oriolez/*INSERTACCOUNTHERE/vanquisher
Jun 7 2011 01:58pm


16. wert1449/Ass/*tit./vita ele druid Challenges 14. LegendaryIcicle//Tiffany//*T-ara.//ES lighter
Jun 8 2011 04:57pm


19. Ravaging/Pink/Panties./Bitch Pansy Ass Trapper challenges 18. gzus / PDAs / *gzus / Mb Ele Druid
Jun 8 2011 05:22pm


3. Secretkiller | ignore | *windy | Elemental Druid (Vitality) challenges 1. Commerce | XxPvPSiNxX | *KickYoAss | Traps Assassin
Jun 8 2011 06:37pm


9. GrandHustla/Hydrocodone/Oxy/Mb Smiter Challenges 7.hella_exp2/Predator/*V8Hate/Vita Pnb
Jun 8 2011 08:47pm


5. DrObgyn/Wolves/*Vine/Vita Ele Druid Challenges 4. Eric_mcc/ vGD /*Grief/ BVC
Jun 8 2011 10:43pm



~` Dodge Counts `~

greatoneseth3 - 1
Captainchopsticks07 - 2
dmurdoch1 - 1
SirOmNomNom - 1





If you see a challenge expired and there have been no results, you may proceed as if the challenge is nulled and please post something like:
"Challenge between 20. RedFlamingo and 21. Deathoflife666 is past three days. I challenge _______________"
Thanks!


NEWS / UPDATES:

* Every challenge that does not involve someone in the top 5 only has 2 days to complete their challenge (example: #13 vs #11 will only have 48 hours, however #7 vs #5 would have 72 hours because it involves someone in the top 5)
- this update will take effect for every challenge after this post, all current pending challenges are subject to the 3 day dodge rule regardless of position on ladder.

* Not sure if this was explicitly stated before, but if you reeach a dodge count of 3, you will be removed from the ladder. If you want to rejoin you will have to start from the bottom. This is to encourage activity in the ladder.

* You CAN ask for extensions in your duels. If you challenge is not a top 5 challenge, you will be given a 24 hour extension to complete your duel (if extension is approved by a moderator) If you challenge involves a top 5 member, you will receive 36 hours to complete the duel (assuming approval ofc)
- All extensions MUST be asked BEFORE the original deadline of the duel, NO extensions will be approved if you ask after the duel was suppose to be completed. Then the moderators will decide if the challenge is nulled or who the winner is.
- Note: If we notice certain members abusing this, always asking for extensions and taking the maximum time for all of there challenges, they will simply be removed from the ladder. This rule is to help those who have weird schedules and cannot predict when they will be available to work.

** Also remember everyone, if you are calling dodge on someone, please make sure you have a saved sent copy of a pm informing them of there challenge at the time u posted it in the thread. If you simply say they dodged but have no proof of contacting them, then we cannot just take your word on it.


This post was edited by MajSlayer on Jun 9 2011 09:34am
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Jun 9 2011 10:12am
Gaffle / Mega / Zord / Bowa

Sign me up
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Jun 9 2011 10:18am
Spring Colors!
Current Standings:


1. Commerce | XxPvPSiNxX | *KickYoAss | Traps Assassin
2. MajSlayer | Gengar | *Stamina | Poison and Bone Necromancer (40-50% block)
3. Secretkiller | ignore | *windy | Elemental Druid (Vitality)
4. Eric_mcc/ vGD /*Grief/ BVC
5. DrObgyn/Wolves/*Vine/Vita Ele Druid
6. SirOmNomNom / Kraken / *ESHIELDNECRO / Vita Hammerdin
7. hella_exp2/Predator/*V8Hate/Vita Pnb
8.Lucasi/ Grew / *Bodily /vita Ele Druid
9. GrandHustla/Hydrocodone/Oxy/Mb Smiter
10. lively/Demi/*Sorc/Manly trapsin
11. xkimchi/IU/*T-ara/hybrid bowfury
12. ClonesOfDiablo/Grassy/*Winning./Vita Nec
13. greatoneseth3/DKA-Deception/*greatoneseth9/mb pnb necro
14. LegendaryIcicle//Tiffany//*T-ara.//ES lighter
15. dmurdoch1/oriolez/*INSERTACCOUNTHERE/vanquisher
16. wert1449/Ass/*tit./vita ele druid
17. RedFlamingo / Haz / RedFlamingo / Mb Es Blizz
18. gzus / PDAs / *gzus / Mb Ele Druid
19. Ravaging/Pink/Panties./Bitch Pansy Ass Trapper
20.Gaffle / Mega / Zord / Bowa

Challenges:



10. lively/Demi/*Sorc/Manly trapsin Challenges 8.Lucasi/ Grew / *Bodily /vita Ele Druid
Jun 6 2011 07:15pm
- Need results by 7:15 PM EST today

13. greatoneseth3/DKA-Deception/*greatoneseth9/mb pnb necro Challenges 12. ClonesOfDiablo/Grassy/*Winning./Vita Nec
Jun 6 2011 10:20pm
- Need results by 10:20 PM EST today

17. RedFlamingo / Haz / RedFlamingo / Mb Es Blizz challenges 15. dmurdoch1/oriolez/*INSERTACCOUNTHERE/vanquisher
Jun 7 2011 01:58pm


16. wert1449/Ass/*tit./vita ele druid Challenges 14. LegendaryIcicle//Tiffany//*T-ara.//ES lighter
Jun 8 2011 04:57pm


19. Ravaging/Pink/Panties./Bitch Pansy Ass Trapper challenges 18. gzus / PDAs / *gzus / Mb Ele Druid
Jun 8 2011 05:22pm


3. Secretkiller | ignore | *windy | Elemental Druid (Vitality) challenges 1. Commerce | XxPvPSiNxX | *KickYoAss | Traps Assassin
Jun 8 2011 06:37pm


9. GrandHustla/Hydrocodone/Oxy/Mb Smiter Challenges 7.hella_exp2/Predator/*V8Hate/Vita Pnb
Jun 8 2011 08:47pm


5. DrObgyn/Wolves/*Vine/Vita Ele Druid Challenges 4. Eric_mcc/ vGD /*Grief/ BVC
Jun 8 2011 10:43pm



~` Dodge Counts `~

greatoneseth3 - 1
Captainchopsticks07 - 2
dmurdoch1 - 1
SirOmNomNom - 1





If you see a challenge expired and there have been no results, you may proceed as if the challenge is nulled and please post something like:
"Challenge between 20. RedFlamingo and 21. Deathoflife666 is past three days. I challenge _______________"
Thanks!


NEWS / UPDATES:

* Every challenge that does not involve someone in the top 5 only has 2 days to complete their challenge (example: #13 vs #11 will only have 48 hours, however #7 vs #5 would have 72 hours because it involves someone in the top 5)
- this update will take effect for every challenge after this post, all current pending challenges are subject to the 3 day dodge rule regardless of position on ladder.

* Not sure if this was explicitly stated before, but if you reeach a dodge count of 3, you will be removed from the ladder. If you want to rejoin you will have to start from the bottom. This is to encourage activity in the ladder.

* You CAN ask for extensions in your duels. If you challenge is not a top 5 challenge, you will be given a 24 hour extension to complete your duel (if extension is approved by a moderator) If you challenge involves a top 5 member, you will receive 36 hours to complete the duel (assuming approval ofc)
- All extensions MUST be asked BEFORE the original deadline of the duel, NO extensions will be approved if you ask after the duel was suppose to be completed. Then the moderators will decide if the challenge is nulled or who the winner is.
- Note: If we notice certain members abusing this, always asking for extensions and taking the maximum time for all of there challenges, they will simply be removed from the ladder. This rule is to help those who have weird schedules and cannot predict when they will be available to work.

** Also remember everyone, if you are calling dodge on someone, please make sure you have a saved sent copy of a pm informing them of there challenge at the time u posted it in the thread. If you simply say they dodged but have no proof of contacting them, then we cannot just take your word on it.


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Jun 9 2011 10:58am
Not going to further comment on this but you lost and y'all straight fucked Eric. (You know I think you are cool as shit Hon but I feel someone needs to say something)

Slice it dice any which way quote rules that can easily be manipulated.

A rose is still a rose and y'all still fucked the guy.

He could have just as easily said it was a dodge at the three day mark shown a s/s of his msg log challenging you even if there was further discussion. But with y'alls moderator system he would have been voted against. Yet if it were visa versa he would have had a dodge called on him.

Granted if there was such a problem with it anyone who does have a problem could merely leave the ladder. But the same could be said of America it's oe nof the best places to live but that does not mean it should not attempt to get better.

Sorry for being a self appointed hero of right and wrong but someone has to speak up or the quiet masses would go unrepresented.

If anyone wants to further discuss I would aim to not fill this thread with more spam pm me or maj or Trav.

But if you do shoot a malice remark at me here do not expect me to not respond.

This post was edited by Egardner on Jun 9 2011 10:59am
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Jun 9 2011 11:02am
Hon is a faggot.
That is all.

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Jun 9 2011 11:09am
Quote (LegendaryIcicle @ Jun 9 2011 12:02pm)
Hon is a faggot.
That is all.

-Peace


lol'd at the trolls comment.
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Jun 9 2011 11:20am
Alright lettuce be cereal. Everyone cough up the fg and send to me before I register.

Quote (Egardner @ Jun 9 2011 12:58pm)
Not going to further comment on this but you lost and y'all straight fucked Eric. (You know I think you are cool as shit Hon but I feel someone needs to say something)

Slice it dice any which way quote rules that can easily be manipulated.

A rose is still a rose and y'all still fucked the guy.

He could have just as easily said it was a dodge at the three day mark shown a s/s of his msg log challenging you even if there was further discussion. But with y'alls moderator system he would have been voted against. Yet if it were visa versa he would have had a dodge called on him.

Granted if there was such a problem with it anyone who does have a problem could merely leave the ladder. But the same could be said of America it's oe nof the best places to live but that does not mean it should not attempt to get better.

Sorry for being a self appointed hero of right and wrong but someone has to speak up or the quiet masses would go unrepresented.

If anyone wants to further discuss I would aim to not fill this thread with more spam pm me or maj or Trav.

But if you do shoot a malice remark at me here do not expect me to not respond.


Your grammar has drastically improved. Kudos~

This post was edited by l.e.g.e.n.d on Jun 9 2011 11:20am
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Jun 9 2011 11:23am
Quote (l.e.g.e.n.d @ Jun 9 2011 01:20pm)
Alright lettuce be cereal. Everyone cough up the fg and send to me before I register.



Your grammar has drastically improved. Kudos~


Taeyeon is the worst of snsd. afk
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Jun 9 2011 11:30am
dmurdoch1 has been afk for 10 days now. do i really have to wait 1 more day until it counts as dodge just because the challenge was issued before u made the new dodge rule shorter? hes obviously going to be afk tmr.
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