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Quote (Mstrforce @ Feb 11 2015 04:55pm)
They can run and spam 550+ damage hammers. A 4.5k life sin at full hp could die to that if overly aggressive trying to chase down a desynching rep'ing hdin lol.

Mitigate MB damage, l8z, rep, spam, change the course of the game

I bet if Austin wanted to, he could start back at the bottom of the ladder and STILL 5-0 his way to the top w/o ever using conc LOL


Yes, he probably could. That doesn't account for the simple things though. Austin is extremely good at his play style for starters.
and I could be mistaken, but I think the dmg from MB is higher than the rep from medi. It might take longer but you could still kill them, even if you just mb'd them to death to stop from trying to over aggressively take them and get yourself killed.
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Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 04:58pm)
No they cant LOL, 9 hits to kill, + 60% block + shadow master.. if you die to non comcd hammers tvh you deserve to lose



9 hits, do you realize how many other classes have to land more than that to get a kill?
550+ UNMITIGATED PVP DAMAGE. What about a necro or a barb for that matter? They don't have 60% claw block, they can't die to a super defensive meditation spamming hdin?

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wat...



You doubt the Austin bro?
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 11 2015 04:57pm)
Beat Austin on a med allowed hdin with a trapper and I'll believe you. Till then I say smart hdin has advantage and can quickly "river" their opponent if you will


I would say AUSTIN has advant. I would never say an hdin has advant on a trapper unless he was modding. Even then it can be in the sins favor if the sin is decent.

honestly, BM sorb really is the only way for a non modding din to have advant.

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9 hits, do you realize how many other classes have to land more than that to get a kill?
550+ UNMITIGATED PVP DAMAGE. What about a necro or a barb for that matter? They don't have 60% claw block, they can't die to a super defensive meditation spamming hdin?




You doubt the Austin bro?


Nec has Golem. Golem takes 2+ hammers. At 550 dmg, golem could probably take 6+
If you are hit by a single hammer as a nec in that situation then you shouldn't be playing a nec :D

It just shows that you don't have the experience to keep an eye on your golems life.

/e As for a barb. If an hdin wants to run off and use medi that badly then the barb can swap off bo stix and get hotos. And as for the 550 dmg, that isn't a problem.

Barbs already get some lenience against hdins due to their high life. At 8.2k life my barb is allowed to get hit a couple times without too much of an issue. You drop their dmg from 1.5-2k down to 550. I would have a stompin hayday :D

It won't take me nearly as many hits to kill them as it will take them to kill me. Even with 50% dr and Med.

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 11 2015 03:08pm
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Yes, he probably could. That doesn't account for the simple things though. Austin is extremely good at his play style for starters.
and I could be mistaken, but I think the dmg from MB is higher than the rep from medi. It might take longer but you could still kill them, even if you just mb'd them to death to stop from trying to over aggressively take them and get yourself killed.



You can reduce MB damage to almost nothing, and then rep >
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9 hits, do you realize how many other classes have to land more than that to get a kill?
550+ UNMITIGATED PVP DAMAGE. What about a necro or a barb for that matter? They don't have 60% claw block, they can't die to a super defensive meditation spamming hdin?




You doubt the Austin bro?


wow...this guys even serious....
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wow...this guys even serious....



We are talking purely about having to chase down a hdin and the fact that a necro has a lower hp pool and no claw block. I understand that necros have an advantage under normal circumstances, but we are talking purely hypothetically here. If you forced a necro to offense vs a hdin, he can catch a bunch of invisible hammers while chasing, and those hammers still do 550+ PvP damage

This post was edited by Mstrforce on Feb 11 2015 03:06pm
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thx guys i learned a lot from this post

so im going to make a new 300 mana bvc with 65fcr, i also will make myself a no conc hdin since hammers are UNMIGATED DAMAGE!! without conc i can now max salvation aura for max resistances

see u at the top!!!!!!!

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I would say AUSTIN has advant. I would never say an hdin has advant on a trapper unless he was modding. Even then it can be in the sins favor if the sin is decent.

honestly, BM sorb really is the only way for a non modding din to have advant.



When you compare whether something has advantage you have to use examples of the top tier Players of that class.

I can beat barbs on my ghost, pure wwing. That doesn't mean shit if the barb is crap. A good player and bad player duel completelt diff. A hdin will cover his path with hammer fields. If it takes 2 hits to kill you without block, on average 60% block will make that 3. Hammer fields can hit you 2x at once.

In a war of attrition, the hdin wins if l8z allowed
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thx guys i learned a lot from this post

so im going to make a new 400 mana bvc with 65fcr, i also will make myself a no conc hdin since hammers are UNMIGATED DAMAGE!! without conc i can now max salvation aura for max resistances

see u at the top!!!!!!!



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