check page 1 of this post.

oh and

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72054181&f=147

Imo zeal sorc definitely has the upper hand vs bear necro.

It's very tough to get decent ar on a bear necromancer so when he comes up against the high defense of the sorceress he's unable to hit her because he cannot afford the cost of new glasses from the eye doctor.

This is why I don't play this game anymore, no one knows the basics.

class advantages don't matter compared to skill.
this is like tiers in fighting games.
yes certain characters have better tools than another and two evenly skilled players will out of 10 games typically end up 6-4 or 7-3 in the adv class favor.
however how often is this the case? skill can trump any disadvantage the class has, especially if we are talking about a class specialist who only plays that class
(for instance think about godly necro specialists like botan or Mil) you think you can beat them on ghost consistently? wronggggg even if you win you won't get the typical results you would expect from that matchup
even on a vita necro brad or botan can give 90% of all ghost players or any other class a run for their money. Paul-WeP can dvt even high level trappers down with relative ease. reymundo feared no block character. not even hacking hammerdins on his barb. Smash didn't either. and think about tvn where supposedly nec has advantage. but think about all the amazing trappers we've had over the years that have won that matchup? skill > tiers. in EVERY game.

oh and.. your trash

you use iron maiden
http://i60.tinypic.com/30idz4x.jpg



and you use mana shrines


( nice disabled multi bro )



you save exit constantly before death
http://i60.tinypic.com/2yozim9.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/nzgg9l.jpg
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what is to stop you from using mods? since your obviously not gm in nature...

We're not talking about the 90%, we're talking about a specifically balanced playing field between even players. Everything you just specified is class specific. Due to a variety of game mechanics (fhr/fcr animations, skill range, skill damage, skill mechanics etc etc) certain classes have a large advantage over other classes. Yes a good nec will beat an average druid. That doesn't mean it's not a massive adv. A good druid wins 10/10 times vs even the best nec (hell we'll even say 9-1 just to count in the possibility of a fluke kill). I don't even play ghosts and I can assure you there isn't a vita nec on east that would beat me and a small handful of players that would even be worth dueling on an mb nec and I by no means am a god tier player. You get somebody on a ghost that is an elite player they are not losing to a nec. End of discussion.

In general, a ghost>nec or any caster for that matter

This post was edited by Boilermakers on Jul 21 2015 02:05pm

maybe so, but i've seen between two god level players such matchups flopped on their head.
on d2pk botan nvded down some pretty high level druids that were known for placing well in tournaments. he lost sometimes also. but he won ft5's in this well known imbalanced matchup.
because HE UNIQUELY plays a certain way that creates situations to cause damage that others dont. not all high level players think/play the same, and some think of creative solutions to age old problems.
theres no matchup in d2 that's truely set in stone. it's hard. infact too hard to ask of any player normally. but isn't that what makes what they do so incredible to begin with? that it is so rare?
those few exceptions exist. i myself actually am much better at nvd than dvn. (this is partially due to my inexperience actually doing dvn because no necro ever wanted to dvn with me so i always ended up in nvd) but some people actually play different
and thus change the matchup. no doubt that they will still not be able to do this 100% of the time and druid will typically either win or have a good score in the match. but don't count somebody out just because of what character they play. the people who do that have always historically been the kids who get embarassed the hardest.

savage
LMAO

Explain how my mb nec beat the #1 and #2 on the ladder 5-3 and 5-1? To me it shows a trend.

you didnt...






your just some bm trash, pretending to be good.
i beat ur nec 5-1 on two different occasions. only time you beat me was when you use mana shrine, and let guys feed you mana but not me, in the moor/mid duel

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This post was edited by JahovahWitness on Jul 21 2015 05:43pm