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May 15 2011 10:48am
Quote (LOLRagezzz @ May 14 2011 06:36pm)
So I can add you to mediators and you can update this biatch as well? :P


Would help a lot til I could buy a new laptop battery. I have the power cord, but it keeps getting loose n shutting off. Id hate to do an update and lose everything ya know ><
Hating having to put all this on the other meds. Most I can do is read the thread on my phone n keep current, make extensions n such. Sorry I can't do much more yet guys >< really iso a new f'ing desktop
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May 15 2011 11:14am
Quote (BustaNut @ May 15 2011 11:16am)
It was a 2 day extension.  You looked at it incorrectly and re-posted incorrectly...  I made the choice to void after the extension was granted because I knew I would never be on at the same time as homeboy.  Up until it being voided by me, it was still valid.  Pre-challenging is pre-challenging.  Everyone had the same chance to react and the more active people seized that.  I had to do a match with Hayz because he saw the opportunity to challenge and seized it.  If the mediators would take the time to actually look at what the other ones are doing before acting accordingly, then there would be no dilemma.



i see your point.

if you had a problem with jsp_homeboy making a challenge before you voided the challenge, then honestly, you should have stated that in the post where you voided it instead of waiting.

also consider this, if you voided the challenge and it wasnt due to jsp_homeboy being completely afk, then why would u get to be the one that challenges right away? thats not fair. what you're saying is that anyone that makes a challenge, can then void that challenge at any time and then challenge up, forcing the person they previously challenged to have to take on other challenges, or challenge above if possible. for that reason i dont think anyone has ever voided a challenge that they were currently in, voids are generally given out by the mediators.

the only person you could have challenged would have been AOZ, and if you wanted to do that, then you should have posted that in your "void" post and also mentioned how you dont think jsp_homeboy should be able to challenge yet. having not done that, you were unable to challenge anyone else and ofc someone lower would challenge you.

either way, its not really an issue anymore. mammal is the one affected by this ruling in his inability to challenge jsp_homeboy. if mammal has an issue with this, then id plead for him to just allow this challenge between homeboy and AOZ to happen, and hopefully this wont happen again in the future.



Quote (HayzBaby @ May 15 2011 11:17am)
The only reason of my spot on the ladder being under I challenged the loser is because it was the lowest duel I could take. Skipping over ruthless while mammal was in a match. Knowing I'll be able to duel was the only reason I said I challenged loser regardless of void or dra was because mammal could always challenge above me regardless of me being under him.



understood, but if mammal wanted to challenge only 1 spot above him, then he should have an equal opportunity at doing that. some users liek toc hallenge specific users or climb the ladder 1 by 1 so if he had challenged only 1 above him, you would have to accept it and be open to challengers.





i made some mistakes and i apologize, but lets get past this. mammal if you have an issue with this, then lmk via pm.

all in all, theres no more pre-challenging. voids are given out by mediators only, and after the void is posted by a med, the two in the voided challenge are free to challenge or be challenged.
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May 15 2011 11:22am

Always check the Currently in Challenge section and don't forget to PM the user about the match!
Interested in joining? Please read the Ladder Rules before signing up! - Check First page!
The life replenish maximum limit has been reduced to 22!



Updated ZvZ Ladder



1. Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru.
2. Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 (Vacation Status - challenge around)
3. Crits / Arelax / *SScali
4. Spams / aoz14 / Next.
5. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / *sds13378
6. PainInUrAss / BustaNut / *D-Vato
7. frw / -Mammal / *native3
8. RuthlessBoa / RuthlessJon / *RuthlessJon (Vacation Status - challenge around)
9. Dare / Hayzbaby / *F34R.
10. CityofChi / Coatlique / *1986-
11. FuknHeadSplitta / FuknHeadSplit /* FuknHeadSplit
12. Defloration / DrDemise/ *DrDemise
13. PostIt / LOLRagezzz / *thetopdecker
14. Shooter / Seas / *Ox.
15. Ama / Bear_Grylls / *w w w . l e w t . c o m (Without spaces)
16. xxxUSAxxx / joshs801 / *dunlap
17. OD-Honey / itslyle / *Cubed(OD)
18. xbw / xxtimxx727 / *ixdantexi



Currently in Challenge
1. Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru. vs 3. Crits / Arelax / *SScali ~ May 18
5. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / *sds13378vs 7. frw / -Mammal / *native3 ~ May 18
10. CityofChi / Coatlique / *1986- vs 11. FuknHeadSplitta / FuknHeadSplit /* FuknHeadSplit ~ May 16
12. Defloration / DrDemise/ *DrDemise vs 14. Shooter / Seas / *Ox. ~ May 15





Previous Matches
6. PainInUrAss / BustaNut / *D-Vato vs 9. Dare / Hayzbaby / *F34R. ~ BustaNut
5. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / *sds13378 vs 6. PainInUrAss / BustaNut / *D-Vato ~ Void
1. Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru. vs 4. Spams / aoz14 / Next. ~ Shawshank
13. Ama / Bear_Grylls / *w w w . l e w t . c o m (Without spaces) vs 15. PostIt / LOLRagezzz / *thetopdecker ~ LOLRagezzz
7. frw / -Mammal / *native3 vs 9. Dare / Hayzbaby / *F34R. ~ -Mammal
16. bowatroll / aztlan_01 / *1999- vs 17. PostIt / LOLRagezzz / *thetopdecker ~ DRA
15. Defloration / DrDemise/ *DrDemise vs 12. Cent / N3rd / *B0jangles ~ DRA
7. frw / -Mammal / *native3 vs 10. CityofChi / Coatlique / *1986- ~ -Mammal







Former #1's
Movies / ccsutton / *sutton [Defended 24x 1st Spot]
Crits / Arelax / *SScali [Defended 4x 1st Spot]
xCainx-CV / CainC5 / *CainC5 [Defended 2x 1st Spot]
OtepShamaya / SwanoW / *OtepShamaya [Defended 1x 1st Spot]
Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru. [Defended 1x 1st Spot]



Mediators
Arelax
LOLRagezzz
Guru-PvP
SwanoW


This post was edited by LOLRagezzz on May 15 2011 11:23am
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May 15 2011 11:34am
If my reasoning to void was to challenge over homeboy which I wouldn't feel to be right, then I would have done so. I didn't say anything about him not being able to challenge someone yet because I felt it to be common sense that his pre-challenge wouldn't be granted. Do not put words in my mouth; how dare you do so. And don't try to misdirect from this clear case of mismanagement. I don't know you well and I've never seen you as someone biased, but this shows it. I'll let it go, but it's completely unethical and shows favoritism. If anything like this happens again, I will leave and start a ladder where the rules are clear, concise, fair, and finite. Unlike this one has been showing. -_-
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May 15 2011 11:38am
Quote (BustaNut @ May 15 2011 12:34pm)
If my reasoning to void was to challenge over homeboy which I wouldn't feel to be right, then I would have done so. I didn't say anything about him not being able to challenge someone yet because I felt it to be common sense that his pre-challenge wouldn't be granted.  Do not put words in my mouth; how dare you do so.  And don't try to misdirect from this clear case of mismanagement.  I don't know you well and I've never seen you as someone biased, but this shows it.  I'll let it go, but it's completely unethical and shows favoritism.  If anything like this happens again, I will leave and start a ladder where the rules are clear, concise, fair, and finite.  Unlike this one has been showing.  -_-


wow. where did i u put words in ur mouth?

ifyou had a problem with jsp_homeboy making a challenge before you voided the challenge, then honestly, you should have stated that in the post where you voided it instead of waiting.

also consider this, if you voided the challenge and it wasnt due to jsp_homeboy being completely afk, then why would u get to be the one that challenges right away? thats not fair. what you're saying is that anyone that makes a challenge, can then void that challenge at any time and then challenge up, forcing the person they previously challenged to have to take on other challenges, or challenge above if possible. for that reason i dont think anyone has ever voided a challenge that they were currently in, voids are generally given out by the mediators.

the only person you could have challenged would have been AOZ, andifyou wanted to do that, then you should have posted that in your "void" post and also mentioned how you dont think jsp_homeboy should be able to challenge yet. having not done that, you were unable to challenge anyone else and ofc someone lower would challenge you.

notice all the "ifs" those are hypotheticals. i never put any words in your mouth, especially since all i do is quote exact phrases

i apologize for my mismanagement, but clearly it wasnt an obvious choice to not allow homeboys challenge. get over it or leave, either way this is over. pm me if you want to continue this.

This post was edited by Arelax on May 15 2011 11:39am
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May 15 2011 11:45am
Don't use subjunctive phrases then. State only facts. Homeboy used a subjunctive phrase when he was using IF and I'D when making his pre-challenge and it was taken as a true and factual statement. You took this as a factual statement, so maybe I thought that you didn't know what subjunctives were and was trying to make an actual statement?
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May 15 2011 11:47am
Quote (BustaNut @ 15 May 2011 12:45)
Don't use subjunctive phrases then.  State only facts.  Homeboy used a subjunctive phrase when he was using IF and I'D when making his pre-challenge and it was taken as a true and factual statement.  You took this as a factual statement, so maybe I thought that you didn't know what subjunctives were and was trying to make an actual statement?


Take this to pms buddy. Theres been one duel for the past 4 pages.
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May 15 2011 11:53am
Quote (BustaNut @ May 15 2011 12:45pm)
Don't use subjunctive phrases then.  State only facts.  Homeboy used a subjunctive phrase when he was using IF and I'D when making his pre-challenge and it was taken as a true and factual statement.  You took this as a factual statement, so maybe I thought that you didn't know what subjunctives were and was trying to make an actual statement?


im an engineering major, not an english teacher. jsp homeboy said

Quote (JSP_Homeboy @ May 14 2011 12:55am)
if the challenge is voided id like to challenge aoz, if we get an extension ill be around for a bit longer tonight or tomorrow night possibly.


the challenge was voided, so i allowed it. i didnt think thered b any issues. since there clearly are, i encourage mammal to pm me with any concerns since he is the one affected by this ruling.

again, i apologize for my grammar and mishandling of the situation. done

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May 15 2011 12:09pm
holy shit. lol
idc ill duel mammal or aoz
busta needs to relax
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May 15 2011 12:51pm
Cool down and get the duels going again. In the time it took to explain this matter, a few more challenges could have been completed. Let's not spend more time on this than is needed. Take it to PM's as aforementioned.

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